Different prices for different races?

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  1. Dinner

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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I don't support racism.

    There, that was easy.

    Y'know what else is easy?
    Fucking yourself.
    You should try it.
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  3. Amaris

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    As a message? Great message. As a practice? No. Just like "I can't bake you a cake because you're gay," "you're paying double because you're white" doesn't work either.
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  4. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    You were in the military supposedly. What did you think about prices at the MWR, hotels, unit functions, etc. being tied to rank*? The higher the rank the more you pay.

    *In many ways the military is one of the most ‘socialist’ institutions in the country. Free food, housing, healthcare, progressive pricing, etc.
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  5. K.

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    Your article names a number of cases in which whites got tickets cheaper, and one in which they had to pay more. Which of these do you oppose?
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  6. Tuttle

    Tuttle Khaaaaaaaaaaann !!!

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    Not very complicated - one is based on reason, the other on prejudice. Ever hear of "first class?"

    *Your definition of "socialist" is ridiculous, even childlike. Unless you claim you didn't need to do any actual work in the army, or that your pay rate was fair (in and of itself) for the services you performed. What you listed are just the job perquisites. And you left out one of the key compensations you received - training and the acquisition of marketable skills.

    Do you *like* dictatorships? Enlightened despot might be the best form of government, but I wouldn't trust one.
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  7. Dinner

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    Rank is ok as it is based upon earnings. If you want to help people with less money then help people with less money but don't be a racist piece of shit about it. Try it sometime.
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  8. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    Lower rank doesn’t always mean less money. I likely had a higher net worth than all the officers in my Company but I still paid a fraction of what they paid.

    Now if you are saying that wealth is highly correlated to rank and we want as equitable a playing field as possible so it is okay to price discriminate based on rank, then I agree.

    Just make sure you apply that logic equally, even to brown folks.
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  9. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Said no one.

    The bakers would not make a cake endorsing gay marriage, they did not refuse service to a gay person. They would not have offered that service--preparing a gay marriage cake--to anyone gay, straight, or otherwise.

    In fact, they offered the gay customer an undecorated cake.
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    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    I'd say quite the opposite, it's your definition of socialism which seems childlike.

    You seem to be of the belief that socialism precludes things like attaining skills, advancing a career or not living under a dictator.
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  12. Tererun

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    Wow, that idea deserves a @Dayton3 award for village idiocy. I am not really sure why @Dinner is hating on liberals for this. Sure, you can do stupid things, but there are consequences like people are going to say no fucking way. The idea has about as much going for it as trickle down economics.
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    In @Dinner 's head they say si, and it drives him nucking futs.
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  14. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    A number of them do including the Washington Post article I linked.
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  15. Dinner

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    Why would I be married to a Hispanic woman if I had feelings remotely like you wrongly imagine? You are a waste of space.
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    The first two aren't precluded, but that third thing is usually unavoidable.
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    1. You're a liar.

    2. You lack self-awareness.

    3. You don't respect women enough for it to matter to you, and she doesn't respect you enough for it to matter to her.

    4. Butts. :async:
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  18. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Not at all, what happens is any attempt to bring an idealised system into the dirty chaotic real world is bound to failure. What works in practise is always a question of best fit and that's the mistake people make when they declare "Sweden isn't socialist" or "public healthcare isn't socialist". Of course they aren't,not in some crystallised form, but then again similar statements can be made regarding capitalism and superficially capitalist nations.

    Equally I could point out to you plenty of examples of market economies which have failed, led to dictatorships or inequalities on a truly inhumane scale.

    Reality requires flexibility and trying to impose categories is a human imperative which almost always leads to failure outside the realm of hard sciences. All countries are a mixture of systems, ideas and historical baggage, the successful ones are those which find the right mix for the circumstances they are in.
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    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Flat Earth conferences doubtless contain a broad political spectrum. They're all deluded regardless of their politics.

    Idiocy comes in many flavours.
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    Of course free markets suck.

    It's just the best way we've found so far of determining prices and creating incentives for productivity - recognizing that all people act in their self-interest, and that some people suck, and rules must be designed accordingly.

    Poverty and disparity are the natural order. Developing or creating wealth does not occur under socialism or communism (or at least it has never done so in history).
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  21. His Grace Faceman the Duke of Wordforge

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    Here’s an idea, “hey man they’re changing double for white people.”
    “Fuck that, I’m not going then.”

    Or.
    “Hey man, they’re charging double for white people.”

    “That’s bulshit, but I really want to go, so I guess i’ll pay the higher price ”

    The venue either succeeds or it doesn’t, but the free market has spoken. Personally I would want as much as revenue I could generate and would be inclusive to everyone because this is how you prove that greed is good.
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  23. Dinner

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    Please kill yourself. It will improve the world. Just put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
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    ^Depopulation of leftist extremists is *not* the answer to reducing global temps, whatever the Earth Firsters might say.
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    Or how about "We meed a law against that racist left wing shit"?
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  26. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    I would be nice if such a shitbag killed himself though. It would be a wonderful and less racist world. Sadly, everything they do increases racism because they are so fucking racist.
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  27. Dinner

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    Shit. Why did I spend years learning to speak Spanish which you obviously were too stupid and lazy to do?
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  28. The Flashlight

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    The linked article is so obnoxiously stupid that I had difficulty finishing it.

    The entire cockamamie idea is based on one false strawman after another.

    #1 - any black person attempting to buy a ticket on day 1 must be impoverished and incapable of affording anything other than the cheapest nosebleed seats. Successful, economically well-to-do black people who might desire a front row ticket just don't fit into the Race Baiting Inc. victimhood narrative.

    #2 - the phenomenon of tickets to concert events being bought up within minutes by secondary market resellers is limited only to events in black communities targeting black consumers. As anyone who has ever attempted to buy a ticket to a big concert can attest, this is a widespread problem that crosses all racial and socioeconomic lines.

    #3 - those buying up cheap tickets on day 1 (if that's really what's happening) must be white folks, surely no black people are involved in secondary market ticket reselling.


    The race baiting SJW's quoted in the article spout all the right SJW verbiage, but at the end of the day all I see is a concert promoter who's come up with a way of gouging potential customers to line his/her own pockets. Sorry, my "wealth" isn't going to be "redistributed" to the brothers in Detroit, no matter how long some pea-brained PC zombie drones on about "collective wealth."

    Here's an idea - if the organizers of Afrofuturist Youth were really worried about poor blacks being guaranteed access to the show, they could offer free admission. :shock:
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  29. Dinner

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    But then that would effect their wealth and they never do that!
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    And don't forget he also wouldn't decorate cakes for Halloween.

    So he's consistent in his faith unlike a lot of other people.
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