Disney trims the fat at Fox. And the sinew, and the bone, and the marrow, and....

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  1. Diacanu

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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    *Skimming the list*

    Jesus fucking Christ, Assassin's Creed2!?!?
    Mister Men??
    The Family Circus?!?!?!

    This shit needed to go.
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Another fucking Pink Panther reboot, are you fucking kidding me!!?
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    Fucking identical twins is probably available on youporn
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    Sounds like this is indeed some bright news.

    Summery, even. :bergman: :ramen:
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    ISWYDT :lol:
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    Untitled Sandlot Prequel :facepalm:

    UNTITLED MCDONALD'S MONOPOLY PROJECT :facepalm: :facepalm: :bang: I sincerely hope they were just going to do a spate of commercials, but in a world where Food Fight exists I can't be sure

    Death on the Nile got cut? I thought that was an odd choice of Christie novels even with I think an Ustinov effort already out there, but I figured they wanted to get some exotic photography to boost interest

    Bob's Burgers movie, Fraggle Rock movie (did the Henson estate decide the Muppets had dried up when the TV series failed?), another Garfield, that's all the further points of interest I see
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  8. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, you never heard of that one?
    That's a real life story of how this guy figured out how to get inside-guys to help him manipulate the McDonald's Monopoly sticker game that was on the cups.
    That's why no one ever won, he and his friends rigged the whole thing.
    Then it all came out, and it was this big scandal.
    Ben Affleck was supposed to direct the movie.

    Fox wanted something to compete with "The Founder", I guess.

    I dunno why they thought they needed this obscure story, the life of Colonel Sanders is fucking insane, that'd make a far more entertaining movie.

    I guess the Monopoly sticker thing is more like a heist?
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    You know what's buried in that list, and ought to be a headline story, but won't be?

    Dragon's Lair the movie.

    Based on the game, animated by Don Bluth.

    Disney has been playing dirty pool sabotaging Don Bluth ever since the beginning with "Secret Of NIMH".

    This is the final "fuck you", to Don Bluth.
    And probably the final nail in his career coffin.
    Sons of bitches.
    :(
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    Video game franchise, easy to understand why Fox would want to do it since it has the potential of being a consistent source of income. Also easy to see why Disney killed it, even their franchise movies that underperform bring in more money than this would.
    Probably based on the popular kids books, so again, easy to see why Fox would want it, and why Disney couldn't care about it.
    If this based on the Bil Keane comic strip, then not only did the project need to be killed, but everyone who approved it should be fed feet first into a paper shredder. With dull blades. That jams frequently and has to be manually cleaned out in a long and arduous process. Then, the resulting goo needs to be fed to pigs that are used as test subjects for a nuke blast.
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    Romancing the Stone? Are you kidding me?!?


    I for one am quite chagrined that we'll all be denied Missile Command: The Movie.
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    Yeah, I mean, just look at this awesome trailer for it!

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    They'd better not have axed Deadpool :brood:
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    Why did they kill the Venom sequel? I thought that movie made its money and then some.
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    You missed a few other big ones that have gotten the ax:

    The Caves of Steel -- Almost certainly that's based on the Asimov novel.
    The Foundation -- Again, almost certainly that's based on Asimov's book.
    Flash Gordon -- That could have been interesting.
    Spamalot -- Well, there goes my only chance to see the musical.

    Shit that deserved to die:
    Commando -- Almost certainly a remake of the '80s Ahnold movie.
    Charlie Chan -- Holy shit! How did anyone think they'd be able to bring that franchise back in the 21st Century?
    Father Knows Best -- :finger: boomers
    Girlfriend in a Coma -- It's serious. Not. Fuck Morrissey.
    Play-Doh. -- The Lego folks got lucky, you won't.
    Taps -- A remake of the Timothy Hutton movie from the '80s, I'm guessing.
    The First Omen -- A reboot/prequel no doubt.
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  16. Diacanu

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    Venom is Sony.
    This must be some other thing.
    All I can find is a 2005 horror movie, but it's under Miramax.
    So....I dunno.
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    Charlie Chan? Those movie sucked even when I was a kid and we only had three channels! Who would want to watch that shit in this day and age?
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    OMG there isn't going to be a license to drive reboot? Where are the razor blades.

    I am a little bothered that chronicle will not have a sequel.

    No magic the gathering movie? Unless they were going to play a children's card game on the back of motorcycles, good riddance.

    No romancing the stone remake? Good, the old classic had chemistry you probably could not recreate anyway.

    A Taps remake? That sounds like trouble. Besides we still have the original which might not translate to today. Then again maybe it would if it were done right.

    Another league of extraordinary gentlemen? I will pass.

    A pink Panther reboot? That one should stay a classic. We don't need a new pink panther.

    The Sims? A video game movie? That is a good cut.

    Oh my a Mcdonalds Monopoly cash grab? Only if it is the story of the way the game actually occurred with all the cheating and scandal. Then I might be interested.

    No bob's burgers? That would make some money. I am not a huge fan, but for the fans.

    Seems like they may be cutting some trash overall. I am not seeing much on there that makes me sad except for maybe chronicle 2, but they would probably screw that up anyway.
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    When this acquisition first happened, I was thinking they'd keep Fox around to put out R rated, or just plain non-Disn-ified movies with, but the more and more I see of this butchery....I think Disney is going to gut Fox for their juiciest IP like Avatar and Planet Of The Apes, and just toss their husk away like a banana peel.

    I naively didn't think they'd do that, because...to me it's stupid!
    Yeah, Fox movies have been flopping this year, but that's short term, think bigger picture!
    It's FOX!!!

    It's like buying the NCC-1701 Enterprise from Star Trek 5, and going "oh, its junk, throw it away".
    NO!!
    It's the Enterprise!!
    It saved the universe!!
    You fix it up so it becomes the Enterprise from Star Trek 6.
    And even after you de-commission it, you make it a museum.
    You don't throw it the fuck away!!

    Fox made "The Sound Of Music", and "Star Wars", and "Titanic", and "Die Hard".
    They just made goddamned "Bohemian Rhapsody"!!
    For fuck's sake!!

    But...Disney is making all the moves that say they don't give a shit.
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    It's what happens when you get too big for your britches. They'll probably put all of the old movies on streaming. I think it's stupid too, but we're not studio executives.
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  22. The Night Funky

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    Remember me saying that the only thing people in Hollywood like more than making money is screwing people out of money? This is a prime example of it. The execs who are killing these movies are teabagging the Fox folks because they can.

    Some of the folks who've had their projects axed are now out of a job, others of them will be offered projects that Disney wants them to work on, but not necessarily ones that they would want to work on. Where it gets interesting, and we have no way of knowing this, are the options and rights to those projects which have been canceled. Some of them, like Commando, are almost certainly in-house properties, meaning that the rights were wholly owned by Fox, and are thus now owned by Disney. Those can stay dead until Disney decides that they want to re-make one of them. For example, I can see Disney offering Commando to The Rock, if they want to put out a movie where he's the star.

    Others of them, it gets tricky. Some may have been given a limited-time option, so Disney can kill the project, but if they want to hold on to the rights, they have a time frame in which they have to produce a film/TV series, or the rights revert back to the original owner, who can then shop them around to other studios. Some may have been "right of first refusal," and now that Disney's killed them, the rights owner can shop them around to other studios. Others of them, the rights may have been owned by the producer, not Disney, in which case, the owner can immediately shop them somewhere else. Or, Fox may have bought the rights in perpetuity.

    If you take a project like Asimov's Foundation series, it's highly unlikely that Disney got all the rights. They most likely have a limited-time option or a first refusal option. With the former seeming more likely to me. That means, there's a good chance some of these properties will be produced by Disney, at some point. Because they don't want to lose the rights. With the stuff that's the right of first refusal, expect the folks who own those rights to immediately start shopping them around to other studios (who'll be happy to snap up at least some of them).

    What I suspect has happened is that Disney has gone through and axed everything that Fox had which was in the early stages of development. I mean, if a film's done and in the process of editing, you're not going to scrap it, you'll put it out. Disney's goal is probably to push out everything Fox had that's too far along to cancel, and hope that the profits are enough to recoup what they had to spend on Fox. If that happens, then they'll revisit the stuff that's been killed and start producing the stuff they're in danger of losing the rights for. If nearly everything that belonged to Fox tanks at the box office, then Disney won't wait until they've gone through everything, they'll start tapping the canceled projects that they think will make a quick buck.

    And here's where it gets complicated. Remember the Foundation project which got canceled? That may, or may not, have been based on Asimov's books. (Though, given that the Caves of Steel can almost certainly only refer to Asimov's works, I'm thinking it has to be his series.) Foundation was was optioned by Apple, for their streaming service, and the production company in charge of that is Skydance. If you notice, they've produced content in conjunction with every major studio except Disney. Now, Disney and Apple are very closely intertwined companies, not only do they both own Pixar (which was originally part of Lucasfilm), but Steve Jobs widow is the largest shareholder of Disney outside of the Disney family. Apple needs something like Foundation to get people to pony up money for their streaming service, so Disney isn't going to kill the project without promising Apple something in return. The most likely possibility is that Disney's "killed" the project so that they can hand it off to some other studio with whom they've done a lot of work. (Don't ask me who that might be, I don't know.)

    Another possibility, and I'm just throwing this out there, is that they think they've got a hot property which is certain to make money. I can't find the article now, but one of the Disney/Marvel execs has said that they were saddened by Netflix canceling the Marvel shows. Nobody knows, precisely, what Apple's going to allow on its streaming service, but it's a safe bet that they wouldn't allow something as edgy as what Netflix did on Disney+. So perhaps, just perhaps, they might continue with Daredevil, et al, on Apple TV. Or, they might hand over the rights to the Foundation and Caves of Steel to a studio they're used to working with, since neither of those works contains anything nearly as edgy as what Netflix did with Daredevil, etc.
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    Sounds like it may be time for Congress to start production of Monopoly: The Mouse Gets Divorced :bergman:
    Aw, who am I kidding? I doubt we'll see an anti-monopoly hearing in our lifetime :(
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    *Finally catches my typo*
    Auuggh!!
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    The mouse already has a "hard R" studio, it's called Miramax, so,yes, Dante and Randall are technically Disney princesses.

    I'd love to see an anti-trust probe into the mouse, but who would do it? The senator from "gonna get slammed by every news media outlet as the next Donald Trump for trying"?
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    Makes sense from Disney's perspective. Most people don't see anything more than a small fraction of films that hit the cinema, so they've probably decided that they don't want to compete with themselves.
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    Nope, Disney sold it in 2010.
    No Miramax, no Touchstone, no Hollywood Pictures.
    Disney has no other R studio.
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    Hollywood Pictures had the slogan "If it's the sphinx, it stinks!" appended to it for a long time. Disney has shut it down twice, but never formally killed it. I don't, however, see them bringing it back any time soon.
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    I'm listening to the latest episode of the Christopher Titus podcast and at about 20 minutes in, he and Steve Byrne start talking about how things work in Hollywood. "Show business is high school with money," is how one of them puts it. But they both agree that when your network gets a new president, you're pretty much fucked. https://www.christophertitus.com/podcast
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    You'll also learn that Prince apparently liked fucking pillows.