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  1. We Are Borg

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    I don't understand why people who are supposedly dead keep coming back.

    Oh, well. It's a show about time travel. :shrug:
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    Oh. So who is?
  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I looked in the FAQ, and MC doesn't have one.
    Amaris or Paladin would be your go-to, I think.
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    Doctor Who and Doctor Who Season 12 threads have been merged.
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    Cheers!
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  7. GhostEcho

    GhostEcho Christian Conservative (Republican)

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    This particular character's entire schtick is "killed last episode, back again with no explanation", so it's not exactly unusual nor unexpected.
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    There's a theory out there that this Master is post-Simm, but pre-Gomez. That's why this one seems more comparable to Smith/Tennant, and it would explain how he becomes Missy later after already having met Whittaker. nuMaster is more shameless about being a copycat of the Doctor. (And Missy once mentioned knowing the Doctor since he was a "a little girl.")

    But personally, I think if Gomez can remember her interactions with Simm well enough to carry about that spare TARDIS part for ages, she should also remember to discreetly protect herself from a deadly laser spanner shot without letting Simm realize. :shrug:
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    I thought it was pretty clear that Missy was Saxton's direct regeneration. She'd wake up without a memory of how she got into that situation (because previous incarnations forget interactions with future ones) and surrounded by Cybermen (with whom she builds her artificial afterlife) and a wish to prove that the Doctor is just like her (which she explains as her motivation when they next meet).
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    That's pretty far from clear, in fact, that was intentionally left vague on-screen in-dialogue.
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    So. Um.

    This was for children too?
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    That episode was about as subtle as a brick through a window.
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    Much improved this week and nice to see no historical whitewashing of Thomas Edison like they did with Churchill in the Smith era (I'll forgive the little nod at the end with Edison trying to get Tesla to come back and work for him again since it was still true to his exploitation of others and desire to make money out of them).

    Didn't realize till someone mentioned it on TBBS but the alien queen was played by Anji Mohindra who was one of the regulars on Who-spinoff The Sarah Jane Adventures.

    And some nice heroic Doctor-y moments this week for those who complain Jodie's Doctor is too passive or ineffective. Plenty of snark too - I loved her "If I'd known we we getting a royal visit I'd have put the kettle on" line.

    Goran Visnijc was excellent as Tesla but I can't help but feel they really wanted Robert Downey Jr in "foreign Tony Stark" mode...
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Glad someone's addressing Tesla as more than just a footnote (though Murdoch Mysteries tried in its pilot episode, but stopped just short of idolizing the man) and showing Edison for the shyster he was. I might actually watch this one. (Tried "Spyfall" but gave up early on. It's not Jodie, it's the $#@!! lousy scripting, among other things.)
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    Welcome to the early 2000's. Tesla's been on a pedestal in every medium he's been portrayed in for the last 20 years.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Didn't do him much good while he was alive. :shrug:
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    Nicholas Hoult plays him in "The Current War", and David Bowie plays him in "The Prestige".
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    That's probably because he died well over 20 years ago.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    1943, actually. My point was, while I haven't seen most of the things @Diacanu mentions, Tesla didn't become a household name until the car, and then mostly among people smirking at its setbacks.

    Edison was a thief and a sumbitch, and it's gratifying that the world of fiction, at least, is trying to set the record straight.
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    I really like Jodi Whittaker, but she seems to be suffering from Peter Capaldi syndrome.

    That is, a very good actor who is perfect for the role but gets shafted with crappy scripts. It wasn't until Capaldi's final season as the Doctor that he started to get decent scripts. :(
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I'd disagree, but I have to admit to bias. I think Moffat's a genius, and I only started watching Doctor Who because of Capaldi. IYO, though, which were the worst scripts of S8 and S9?
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    Can't remember off the top of my head; the Capaldi years started almost six years ago. I just remember being very frustrated because I love Capaldi and the first season or two were generally very bland.
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    The first season was, but the second and third were fine.

    I agree that Whittacker is a great actress, but I don't see her portrayal of the Doctor as on par with Capaldi's. From the first pose he struck, he was doing incredibly detailed, fascinating work. Whittacker seems to be boiling almost anything down to breathless-excitement-and-ennui, as if every scene was like this one kind of Tennant scene, ignoring all the other scenes Tenannt also did.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Also, do we really need three companions?

    "Fam"? :yuck:
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  26. Diacanu

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    They're scared shitless of the misogynist fanboys.
    "Look! Look! See!? Two boys! It's gonna be okay! :polarslam2:".
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  27. Diacanu

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    Yeah, that's....ugh...I hope they're setting up that once you get really attached, Davros or somebody kills them with one zap, and she goes nuclear.
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    Chibbers may be trying to harken back to the Hartnell days, but back then three companions worked because they had multiple episodes (albeit only 25 minutes each so a 4-part story was only just longer than a modern two-parter). The Fifth Doctor era should have shown him three companions is too many... it just barely worked because Nyssa or Adric could fill in for the Doctor in terms of scientific knowledge if they got separated.

    Yeah I hate "fam" too, but I can't complain because my students have gotten me into "smol" or "floof" to refer to my dog. But then again, we had "ickle" back when I was a student, so we're damned anyway.

    Still no clue what "on fleek" is, apparently it means "perfectly groomed/styled" but I will definitely make you off fleek if you use that phrase.
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    Eh... I actually like Graham, Ryan, and Yaz. It's a nice change from the doe-eyed companions who may-or-may-not have had a thing for the Doc. (Not that I'm complaining; most of the companions for the new iteration of Doctor Who have been pretty good.)
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    Yeah, I'm totally here for the group of companions. They need to do a better job at writing an ensemble show, but all the right ingredients are there.
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