Female chess master sues Netflix

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  1. Rimjob Bob

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    At one point in The Queen's Gambit, it is claimed that Nona Gaprindashvili, a real-life Georgian champion, never faced off against men. This is grossly untrue, and was untrue even in the year the show is set. Gaprindashvili is suing for damages.

    I think the moral claim is strong. Netflix effectively erased Gaprindashvili's accomplishments in order to bolster its own fictional protagonist.

    But the legal grounds? Doesn't Netflix have a right to portray a fictional universe with alternative facts?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture...-sues-netflix-over-sexist-line-queen-n1279392
  2. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    NASA should sue the Stargate SG1 people for making them look like underachieving losers. :yes:
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  3. Faceman

    Faceman Negative Creep

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    She can sue. But what are her damages? Is it even defamation?
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    This is interesting to me because Netflix seems to have used a real life person in a fictional world where they actually degrade her accomplishments which is directly related to their narrative. They altered the narrative from the written work which I guess puts their fictional character as more of a trailblazer.

    I think the case is doomed because it is obviously a fictional universe. I will say it is good to make light of the difference where it may interest fans of the show to go learn something real, and it also brings light to the issue.

    Seems like a dick move on the part of netflix, but this sort of rewriting of history by obviously fictional works is nothing new, especially for women. Welcome to pokahantas land.
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    Even apart from the lawsuit, it annoys me to no end when Hollywood strips down true stories that would make great movies and add nonsense that didn't need to be there. Shit like the Madam CJ Walker story (the first black woman millionaire who kick-started the black hair industry)...so much shit was just pulled outta it's ass like her husband being a horny dog and a colorism war between her and her rival...just why? :jayzus:

    "Riding In Cars With Boys" took some extreme liberties with the book, but bizarrely Beverly D'Angelo was fine with Penny Marshall erasing the fact that she graduated from college as a single mother and saying that she resented her kid for ruining her life, so...:shrug:

    And the teacher that "Dangerous Minds" centered on had to all but threaten to pull her Marine training on the writing staff to get a non-existent affair with one of her students (who were also based on real people) removed from the script, but having read that book before the movie, the changes they did make were interesting, to say the least.
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    Someone needs to shove a bunch of rooks right up Nona Gaprindashvili's asshole.
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    You don't say.
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    For UA's point to land, inclusion has to equal bullshit, Star Trek has to be a true story, and Star Trek has to have been conservative, and suddenly just turned liberal.
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    I dunno. Devil in the Dark could be seen as saying "don't kill unborn fetuses" and "use other races as labour to increase your profits".

    ;)
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  10. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    There's this terrible fucking shitshow Doctor Who episode from a few years ago where the moon is actually a giant egg about to hatch and the Doctor refuses to do anything about it either way, and it made absolutely no sense until I learned the author is some dude that's very anti-abortion. :doh:
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    Not sure about that one - the Doctor DOES leave the choice up to Clara and humanity (well, those in a position to decide) and they just happen to go with "let it hatch".

    The bad bit is where Clara yells at the Doctor for putting the decision on her shoulders.
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    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    He leaves it up to Clara and two other women because"it's not his place to decide" or whatever after hundreds of years of deciding who lives and dies every week, and then after the entire planet Earth votes for Clara to kill it, Clara lets the egg hatch anyway and it brings about a new golden age for humanity. Don't give in to the peer pressure to flush it, kids! Every space egg is sacred! :jesus:
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  13. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Allegory.

    It's all allegory.

    It's really the Easter story you see.

    If Mary had broken the egg and had an evil abortion Jesus would never have come along to tell us abortions are evil.

    But no matter how many socialists pressured her she had to choose because it was her body, I mean egg, and having it for breakfast would have damned all our souls to an eternity of hellfire.

    Or even worse, soggy toast.

    So the righteous person will always without question, freely choose of her own free will to keep the baby no matter how her Papa preaches.

    Because what did her Daddy do? Was it Clara's last IOU? When she was convicted and in trouble deep (for adultery, poor Joseph, the original, and still the best, soi boi cuck btw) she's needing good advice and the best advice is to never count your golden ages till they hatch.

    Important questions:

    1. Does immaculate conception run in the family?

    2. Is it more aptly described as being like a virgin or like a prayer?
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  14. Rimjob Bob

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    Wow, you're a Doctor Who fan? :)
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    I do like my toast soggy from aborted chicken fetus.

    The really bad allegory about abortion I choked on was when edward knocked up his high school bride only to have Bella decide to keep it even though she would die and leave it to be raised by vampires who kill other humans because all life is sacred. Really, we are getting an anti-abortion PSA in a fucking sparkly vampire book or movie? We are getting it from an abused victim of child molestation who is goingt to die because her pedo boyfriend fucked her knowing it was going to kill her if she got pregnant?

    Give me a fucking break, I was only there to get some hot shirtless werewoof masturbation material anyway. Twilight would have been so much better as soft core gay furry porn anyway.
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    I don't believe there are any legal grounds, but Hollywood is notorious for shit like this. Inconvenient facts are always left out when they conflict with the directors narrative.
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    SMeyer is a Mormon. Enough said. :shrug:

    The imprinting on toddlers and infants shit was a huge nope and even the die-hards returned the book en masse after Jacob imprinted on Bella's newborn kid. :lol:
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    There was just a Voyager novel where a cute female ensign imprinted on Harry Kim's unborn child!

    It's okay, she's a Kriosian metamorph like Famke Janssen from Perfect Mate. :async:
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    I was entertained by the situation having actually seen the werewoof community in our world. I hung out with the shapeshifting end of the furry community. This was not a group you wanted to see running around in tight pants without their shirts. These were the stereotypical fat and thin geek boys, who I might tend to resemble. Do not get me wrong, I am good with anyone's body, but a room full of human form werewoofs rough housing looked absolutely nothing like it did in twilight. So I got an extra good chuckle at the whole thing. I will say twiligfht's werewoofs did look a lot like the artwork the werewoofs made. I actually wonder a little if she was somewhere lurking and looking at furryporn.

    Still i was ok with the books and movies up until those moments. One of the reasons I was cool with it was because all the emo pop rice goths had their drama turned into glitter force. It was really hard to be a tough butch vampire type when you could just throw some sparkles at them and laugh. I knew too many guys who were all into the blade type vampire bullshit.
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    I fucking hate that episode.
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    The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind throws in a teacher-student affair too.

    Every time Hollywood tries to market something as a biopic or "based on a true story" that just makes me want to miss it all the harder.