Game On in Iraq: Iranian Quds and Militias Suffer a, um, Setback

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  1. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Indeed, you think it's heroic to invade a sovereign nation illegally, we got that.
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  2. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    No?

    You seem very determined that we should honour your troops for their sacrifice in the name of....,..what?

    I'm not American, bear in mind.

    Do we thank Iraqi civilians for their sacrifices?

    Serious question here, minus the snark which is going to mount on both sides.

    In what light do you view Iraqi insurgents fighting against those troops?
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    yeah I'm done with this thread - I've spoken my mind/expressed my viewpoint in every way I can but now it's getting into diminishing returns territory.
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    You’re being forced to think. It’s so much easier to just spew talking points.
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  5. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I'm sorry if I offended you.

    That wasn't my intent.

    But the world is large and we all have very different perspectives on things.
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    At this point I don't give a flying fuck what you think. :shrug:

    I've stated numerous times that I didn't like the Iraq invasion yet you continue to say that I loved it. It's like you have a mental bloc that can't separate respect for troops from the decisions of world leaders. All you are doing is chastising people who had the guts to put their life on the line for their country while you sat at home safe on your fat little ass. Many of these people didn't come back alive or are missing body parts or are suffering from PTSD and you want to bitch at them for doing their jobs? Straight up FUCK YOU. You're nothing more than a worthless, tin foil hat wearing piece of shit and not worthy of respect or time.
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    Spot started off as what I thought was a reasonable person who had earned my respect, but this thread and a couple of others showed off his true colors. He's just another leftist loon who lost my respect months ago.
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  8. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    So yet again, what is your opinion of the insurgents they were fighting against? I seem to recall you being of the belief they were terrorists and murderers.

    Did they not suffer more and with far less say in the matter? Were they not the ones defending their homes with makeshift weapons and minimal training? Did an entire generation of children not grow up with PTSD being normality?

    Do you laud them the same way you do the people who invaded them backed by the world's largest military machine?

    Personally I've a lot more respect for the soldiers who had the guts to say "no" than to mindlessly revere someone simply because they served in your (not my) armed forces, but please, do tell me, as someone who is neither American nor Iraqi why would I give such reverence to your forces but see theirs as murderers?
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    Pentagon revises casualties from the attack on their base from 64 to 109.

    Just headaches though, right?
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  10. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Wonder why the massive hike.
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    Milder cases that took longer to present, is the official line.
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  15. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Strange choice of target if true.
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    Like Ivanka, she’s a handbag designer.
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    Not really:

    She's likely one of Ivanka's circle and/or biggest customers.
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  18. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Dear God have you people no actual diplomats or politicians? Ones that aren't just well connected rich folk faking it?

    Seriously though I see your point that it would be effectively a personal attack on Trump but surely a military target would be more fitting?
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    Remember when the worst thing we had to look forward to this year was a war with Iran? Good times.
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    This was before your time here, but it came out during the Obama era that a number of people he made ambassadors had no qualifications for the job other than they had donated lots of money to the party. I complained about this and was told that it really wasn't a big deal. I still don't think that it is something we should be doing but I don't know if any of the others on the opposing side have changed their opinions on the subject or not.
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    It's hard to figure out where to come down on this issue. I remember when Reagan appointed actor John Gavin Ambassador to Mexico. There was some controversy, but as I recall, things died down and he served for 5 years without any problems that I recall. A few years before that, Nixon appointed wealthy publisher Walter Annenberg as Ambassador to the UK. He was so popular that he was given an honorary knighthood. Then there was FDR's appointment of Joseph Kennedy to the Court of St. James, which wasn't one of his great moves.
    It's easy to think that Ambassadors should be career diplomats, but I don't think you can make a blanket statement about the right choices for those jobs. How important Ambassadors really are in the overall scheme of things and how hard they work and how much influence they have over relations between the U.S. and other countries, is something I would guess varies a lot from one POTUS to another. :shrug:
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    It looks a high school homecoming parade float, but with a smaller budget.
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    "Red Notice" sounds like double-secret probation.

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    As a married man I'd think you would realize what Red Notice really sounds like. :bergman:
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/04/trump-pentagon-iran-nimitz-454548

    Trump overrules Admirals, leaves Nimitz CSG in the Middle East

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