HAPPY BIRTHDAY U.S. ARMY!

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  1. oldfella1962

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    We Are Borg Rey of sunshine

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    Go Navy!
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  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    aren't they the oldest branch? Maybe it's the marines. :unsure:
    Regardless I will forcefully and without reservation throw my fist into the face of any dipshit who says the Air Force! :brood: Or the Space Force if that ever gets off the ground (no pun intended).
  6. spot261

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    Surely it's the National Guard?
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    That's what's generally accepted, yes. It has its roots in Rogers' Rangers from the French and Indian War.
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  8. oldfella1962

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    Roger's Rangers sounds like a Christian TV puppet show or cartoon!
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  9. RickDeckard

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    Fuck the US Army.
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  10. matthunter

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    That's a bit extreme.

    I'd finger them against a wall.
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  11. spot261

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    Very interesting how peoples' perspectives differ depending on where they hail from.

    Must admit I'm a mild critic of US foreign policy and the frequent use of the military to enforce it, that may have become evident by now in fact.

    There seems to be a very American tendency to lionise and hero worship the military in ways which sometimes seem quite strange to us. At public events people who have served stand up and are cheered by the rest of the crowd for instance, which is very different to the way personnel here will actively avoid being identified.
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Things were very different in the late stages of the Viet Nam war and the years afterward. Wasn't really until the mid-late 80s that the military was "cool" again.
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    Ha ha, then you would be in the navy because you would get seamen.
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    If it weren't for the US Army you'd be saying this in German. :D Okay maybe Japanese, but that's a little less likely I guess.
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    You do know the Nazis were already past the point of being able to fight an offensive war and on the back foot by the time the US entered the conflict right?
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    Yes I know that - nonetheless they still had enough steam to be dangerous (desperate, hungry tigers kill the most villagers) and they could have inflicted some serious damage in your general region. We'll never really know at this point will we? Agree we should have gotten into the war sooner but hey, it's your backyard after all, just as it was in WWI.

    Who knows, the next time serious shit pops up in Europe (other than the Balkans and Russian expansion brush fires) the US might just stay home. Everyone claims we are always sticking our noses into other nations' business, so that might be the time we don't. I'm sure you can handle it yourself.
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    The US will send the troops in if its interests are threatened. Same as it has always done. No other reason.

    Expecting gratitude for doing so is taking the piss a bit.

    You aren't Spider-Man throwing himself into the path of Doc Ock to save the hapless civilians with no thought for his own safety.

    By "you" I mean the US. I have tremendous respect for troops, but at the end of the day the decision to fight wars is up to the US government, and that is NOT guided by idealistic motives, then or most especially now.

    Well gratitude and cash. Was still this century we finally stopped repaying you over lend/lease.
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    You were staying home, Japan took the matter out of your hands ;)
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    We will honor our treaty obligations. We’ll fight and we’ll kick ass and take names. As we do.

    Fuck that cowardly ass Trumpian bull shit about not.
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  24. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    Also, in terms of actual celebration Marine Corps B’Day > Army B’Day. They got some cool ass traditions. We have a damn Post Run. Yay. Nothing instills Pride like a lurching slinky ‘run’.
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    That all depends on what you consider the National Guard to be. If you consider it to be the direct lineal descendant of the militias (I don't, but I see the argument), then yes. It's been around since the 1600s in that case.

    Nevertheless, the National Guard as it is had no formal existence before 1903 (Nationally), although the New York National Guard can claim 1824 as its foundation.
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    Arguable. Most historians see the true 'turning point' of the war in August of 1942, concurrently with the Germans losing the Battle of Stalingrad and Japan being driven out of the southern Bismarck Island chain. (The Guadalcanal campaign)
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    yeah that morning "run" almost made me late for work. :brood: The road to my parking lot was blocked so I had to park as close as I could, then shoe leather express it the rest of the way. We have Marines training here, and they have an annual 24 hour Bataan Death March tribute or something where they ruck around a big track in relay or something.
    They have other events too occasionally, and I should start training to win a t-shirt by doing 20 chin ups but I'm only up to 15 so I better kick that into high gear. :whew:
    Doing pull ups wearing a 25# ruck is great for raw strength training, but isn't the same as doing chin ups for muscular endurance. No, they don't have age categories in their contest, so old guys like me have to do the full 20 reps to win the t-shirt and bragging rights! :yes: Dropping down to 155# would probably help me too, but damn that night-time snacking is the devil! :diablo:
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    The Germans losing the Battle of Stalingrad, having already lost the Battle of Britain, had nothing to do with US involvement and didn't happen overnight.

    The idea there's any real chance we would be speaking German now without the US is pretty unrealistic by any measure. Had preventing German takeover of the UK been in anyway the political or strategic goal of the US campaign you'd have entered the war several years earlier when there was actually a risk of us being overrun. As it happened we'd already pretty conclusively repulsed their westward advance, as had the Russians in the east and Americas involvement was only ever about its' own interests.
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    I had an interesting thought earlier this evening - if the Germans were in such a weakened state by 1944 why didn't Britain liberate France? What were they waiting for?
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