Holy crap She-ra was actually decent

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  1. Tererun

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    I am talking about the new series on netflix.

    I started watching it as sort of a see how bad this actually is sort of thing. I have to say it was pretty impressive. If you can tolerate animated drama and adventure this one actually has a well defined story, character backgrounds that make sense, and handles a lot of adult issues along with teen issues. This is not your monster of the day old school cartoon. Some real work and worldbuilding went into the three seasons that are on netflix now.

    It is not that long considering the episodes are a half hour and there are only 26 of them. The second and third seasons are half of the first. She ra is powerful, but not the all powerful person that wins every battle. Glimmer and Bo have their own accomplishments and motivations as part of their team. They also have multiple princess leaders of different lands who come and go, and have their own motivations and stories.

    Catra is Adora/she ra's freind in the beginning and that relationship is used through the whole story for emotional drama and motivations really well. You don't just get that they knew each other and split ways and betrayed each other. You really see both sides of what happens to the two of them. They do a great job of showing why these two are at odds. It really ads to the climax and the decisions that are made.

    I was really impressed that they took the time to develop the sub characters to a point that you know them as well as the main character. In the final episodes of the third season when everything comes together this becomes important sort of like how the MCU built things up for endgame.

    There is a bit of choppiness in action scene animation where the artists could improve showing what happens in certain fights, but overall the animation is decent. It is nice that not everyone in the universe is skinny. Glimmer is not drawn as a thing waif, but she is attractive. There are multi racial characters and even an episode where two fathers are shown to be raising one of the important sub characters. I don't see a lot of girl power in this. It is just presented as a matriarchal system and they don't get into why. Men are there and participate, it just seems that for some reason princesses are leaders. The show just sort of puts women in the predominantly powerful roles as men would normally be and does not defend or promote any reason why.

    I was not expecting much from this, but in the end this is a really decent series that I am glad I watched because i would have missed it otherwise.
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  2. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Trolling No Jutsu Formerly Important

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    How the hell did I miss this thread?! :doh:

    But yeah @Tererun , my first introduction to the series was seeing all the Voltron shippers who got mad at their ship being sunk flock to this show and just on that premise alone I wanted the show to bomb right onto it's ass.

    But this last season especially blew me away in how they delve into the fucked up way both Adora and Catra were raised. I never expected this series to be a showcase for co-dependence and parental neglect but they've done an amazing job of this.

    I loved Bow's gay dads. I've had a lot of folks say that episode read a lot like trans acceptance as Bow was living a double life and pretending to go to some scholar academy. But they were legit dudes and I'm here for it.

    Worth noting that Noelle Stevenson the EP is also queer herself and wrote the series Lumberjanes which was supposedly gay AF, so there's definitely a lot of gay vibes in this series.

    The series is slated for a 52 episode run, so we're about halfway through it. Next season should be in another two monymo if they're doing that split-season thing they like to do to keep up the buzz.
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    So, opposed to being sacred excrement, you're saying that the series was excrement pushed through a hole. (Don't worry, I'll wait for you to figure it out.)
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    It's late and I gotta go to work. I'm gonna guess it's Futurama or South Park. :shrug: oraybe from that movie Dogma.
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    Read the thread title slowly.
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    Just noting I had spelled holy as hole and have changed it.
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    It shines in certain areas and is passable in the rest. I have to say the humor gets me. I like how evil is not totally evil at the moment. The good guys have multiple different motives. I am looking forward to seeing more of it.

    I like how it shows friends can grow apart and become rivals. That tends to be more realistic. Adora has her time with catra where they need each other and are good friends, but they are both going different ways, and they always had different motivations. They clearly have a different sense of right and wrong. I like that Adora keeps on trying to be glad for catra even though she is fighting against her.

    The whole fantasy time shift finale of season 3 was pretty well done. I like the setup for the next stage. They seem to be pretty obvious with their motives so hordak is probably going to be redeemed somehow. It just seems that he is a cast off because he was weak, but the way the series seems to be going it means he will find strength and maybe shift sides. He will probably end up sacrificing himself.

    The writing is a bit blunt. You can tell where things are going, but there are some surprises like Entrapta staying with the horde.

    I am wondering if there is some tie in with World of Warcraft at this point. The horde clearly use the horde symbol from WOW. The princess alliance is using Alliance. Portals can be opened, which would possibly be tie in capable. If they do a tie in I am going to have to go back to WOW. The kung fu panda crap sucked, but if they go the She-ra route I would have to bring my pigtailed stabby stabby back.
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    I've been told the Entrapta thing is a carry-over from the 80s show, but the way they did it here, it certainly didn't feel like it.
  9. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    The 80's cartoon was cringe.
    They just threw a Barbie skin over He-Man.
    If the new one is a vast improvement, then good.
    It needed fixing.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    *Googles*
    No.
    It's stylized from the old 80's one.
    The old one was basically a red Hordak face with Batman wings.
    The new one they've stripped it down to the red, and the wings.
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    The old one was just a marketing ploy to get the little sisters of the He-Man audience buying dolls. That's why they all had the same generic, stock design. Hell, Catra and Scorpia had a damn near identical color pallette where I could only tell one apart from the other when Catra spoke in that hideous voice of hers :lol:

    One detail I like in the new one is that Scorpia is a femme butch has claws but it's shown that they're not always great as fine motor skills, like sorting papers. The designs are all pretty unique to each characters' abilities. The 40 year old manchildren were upset that none of them have giant tiddies and skimpy outfits or otherwise not designed with the grown male gaze in mind. Fuck 'em. :yes:
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