Home VR - advice?

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  1. matthunter

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    Maybe this is better in the Press Start thread but I saw the Oculus Go on offer over Xmas and began wondering about getting a VR setup. Looking to see if anyone has a setup and can report positives/negatives?

    Main concerns - are there enough interesting games actually out there to make use of VR? I've got a PS4 Pro so could look at the PSVR setup but you sometimes need the Move/Aim controllers to get the full feel. Skyrim VR is tempting me though...

    Then there's the Oculus Rift but not sure my PC's graphics card is up to scratch for a tethered system.

    Cables might also be an issue - have pets who like to chase about...

    So stuff like the Oculus Go (headset and hand controller only) might be an idea but seems more limited in terms of game availability than the PSVR... I'd really love a space exploration game... Robinson for the PS sounds good but perhaps just some sort of NASA-inspired stuff like the old Microsoft Space Simulator?

    However, the Go is designed to be entry level - Oculus are meant to release the Quest this year so perhaps better to wait for that?

    Final point - without any nearby stores big enough to actually stock demo headsets, I have no idea if I'm prone to the motion sickness people report with VR. I assume companies would accept this as a valid reason to return the items, but is there any online test you can do first to check?
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    Nearly every tech geek I pay attention to, who was once very excited about VR has pretty much given up on the tech. Their reasons vary from things like the stuff out there isn't very interesting, the gear's uncomfortable, or physical complaints (more on this in a minute). Facebook, which shelled out billions for Oculus seems to be rather wishy-washy on continuing with it. I would be cautious about plunking down a chunk of change for the gear and then having everybody pull the plug on the tech.

    The physical effects can be mild, like eyestrain (caused by your eyes focusing on something that's very close to your face but appears to be far away), to nausea, and what's known as simulator sickness, where you can have a feeling of disorientation which can last for days after using the device. (Pilots who spend a lot of time in simulators are told not to drive because of the problems with this.) An inexpensive way to check to see if you might be susceptible to such things is to buy one of those cheap (~$30) VR headsets from a site like wish.com, which allow you to stick your smartphone in and strap it to your face. There's usually a free app you can download to experiment with the thing, so you don't have to worry about it being terribly different than an actual VR system.
  3. Marso

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    Pure bunk.

    We go in the simulators every six months. We drive to and from them every day we're there. This isn't an issue for anyone I know or have even heard of in the professional flying world. Perhaps in the past when the sims were older and the motion didn't sync as well with the visuals, but not these days.
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    Dunno. The tech reporter talking about this cited an Air Force regulation. I don't know how their use of sims compares with that of civilian pilots, or if they have stricter regulations than civilian pilots do. It might very well be old information or an outdated reg that hasn't been changed in the wake of improvements to the technology.
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    I used to use old, Class C sims when flying in the Navy, and there was never any mention of anything like this either. Can't speak for the Air Force.
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    What are the specs on your PC?
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    Win 10 Intel Core i5 2.8Ghz with 24Gb RAM, but graphics card is only an AMD Radeon HD 6800 card with 1Gb GPU memory.

    I could do with updating the graphics card as it's not CUDA compatible and I would like to get into 3D scanning more for the 3D printer, but the higher end ones would likely set me back just as much as the VR rig itself, so given I already own a PS4 Pro...
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    A Rift is down to US$350 and is leaps and bounds above the PSVR, although as you said would need a new video card. I wouldn't go the PSVR route unless that has specific games you really want to play.

    The Quest would be a pretty good option as a standalone unit when it comes out, although it's less likely to get the grander scale games.

    Do you have any arcades near you that do VR stuff?
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    Im tempted for driving games, as i play them a lot and thats what VR seems the best for.
    Need to try before I buy though
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    I live in the arse end of Wales, it barely does actual reality.

    What sort of games are out there for the Rift?
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    There are a ton of games on Oculus Home, and 99% of VR stuff on steam runs no problem.

    What type of stuff do you like?
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    I use an HP Windows Mixed Reality set, and run it on an AMD FX-6300 with 24GB of RAM, and an Nvidia GT 1050 2 GB graphics card. The set is a 2880x1440 running at 90Hz and has a 90° range of vision. I can play Elite Dangerous on high settings and (aside from looking GORGEOUS) runs smoothly without issues. I have a bunch of free VR games that Steam just gives away, so you can easily try them out without spending any money. One of my favorite games is Project Cars, because in VR it is so much fun it's ridiculous.

    The set didn't cost me much because I bought it refurb, but many can be found for under $200. I do recommend the HP set because if you wear glasses, you will need that tiny bit of extra room it offers. Some people report scraping their glasses on the other WMR sets. The other nice thing is that the set doesn't need external devices like sensors or cameras. You can connect it to your PC, pick up your controllers, and you're good to go. It will track your head and body movements. So you might want to look in that direction.
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    So I tried the PSVR before Xmas - good but the optics are low res so I returned it and got an Oculus Quest. Having the freedom to stand anywhere in the room and the Touch controllers (I don't have Move controllers for the PS4 so was using the usual PS4 gamepad controller) makes a hella difference. My room is a little small it seems, but if I can sell or junk my treadmill that will free some space and I just need to be bothered to lift and move my glass coffee table, but the fucker has a lot of books and papers on it so is heavy. The Guardian system is cool - you draw out the usable space and the system sets virtual walls that will pop up in the games if you are straying out of them. You can pop your head out for a few seconds to see the real world via the headset camera if need be.

    Not bought any games so far - just trying the demos. Beat Saber is fun, as was the Space Pirate shooter. I got Vader: Immortal bundled in. Could only play for a bit before motion sickness became an issue as I was having to teleport around a lot because my playspace is too small to walk to many things you need to interact with. One thing you really get from this is just how physically huge Vader is, particularly when he's right in your face.
  18. The Night Funky

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    So, how's the porn selection for VR?
  19. matthunter

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    ;) OK as long as the girl remembers not to get her head too close to the camera or she'll go a bit double-visiony. Alright if you just wanna look down at the action, but I always find the girl's reactions sell me on porn more than just tight shots of penetration.