How Long Can People Hide Behind Internet Anonymity?

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  1. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    What are you going to do? Walk after me? I doubt you'd make it very far.
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  2. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    No. But I have had an encounter or two closer to real life before. Remember over at the TrekBBS when one of the members who was certainly no friend of mine there asked for my phone number. I gave it to him, he promptly called and guess what, he was not remotely offensive when he talked to me directly. Even commented later in TNZ about my being pleasant with him.
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  4. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Walking would be an easy defense. :yes:
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    Y'know, @Dayton3 , a word to the wise: IIRC, @Dinner was banned for a time because he made RL threats against someone here (threatening to call their employer, IIRC).

    You should think very carefully before posting any more on this matter because this isn't the first time you've made mention of seeking out people IRL.

    @Anna ? @gul ?
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  7. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    An encounter happens without planning or forethought, locating where the individual in a forced encounter be in advance is stalking.
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  8. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I have no problems walking. Unless it is more than 100 degrees of course. Or garamet might snidely comment about in the rain.
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    Quest Let Freedom Ring! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't use my RL identity here, though I'm not afraid to either. I've revealed my name to several WFers over PM, but I don't think any of them post here anymore. Hope that's a coincidence. :unsure: Anyway, the days of internet anonymity are over. You post something that offends the wrong people and there are plenty of ways for them to track you down.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    But I have specified that I'm not going to cause any harm to anyone in real life or online.

    How is this hard to understand?
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  11. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I'm sure you don't. :yes:
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    Drunken rage post aside, no, I would not actually call someone's employer.
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  13. Dayton Kitchens

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    I'm sure you don't. :yes:[/quote]

    What are you so afraid of Ed? I haven't even named you (or anyone else for that matter). You have asserted that basically you consider yourself physically superior to me allowing you to flee successfully.

    So why your terror?
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  14. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    What are you so afraid of Ed? I haven't even named you (or anyone else for that matter). You have asserted that basically you consider yourself physically superior to me allowing you to flee successfully.

    So why your terror?[/quote]

    I know I can walk successfully. Isn't the best way to avoid an argument to walk away.
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    Heisenberg?
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  16. Tererun

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    Sorry dayton but your desire to know everyone's name is probably not going to be happening. The US is never going to compel the release of names. It hurts victims much more than those who victimize. Do remember that the anonymity does assist both. For instance a child or victim of abuse can assume and change nicknames in a first obstacle to protect from stalking or abuse. You would be forcing them to expose themselves to their abuser, and exposing them IRL to anyone who happens to want to abuse them. Considering it is the abuser/bully/stalker who shows a willingness to harass and annoy, and that there are plenty of absolutely legal ways to do it you are really exposing the people who do not do these things to those who are willing to. Great idea dayton, but it comes off as thoughtless and potentially whiny because you want names of people without having to go through the hassel of investigation.

    The second problem with your plan is economic. The moment the US compels message boards to identify everyone by name you immediately send business to other countries who do not abide by those rules. Considering some message boards make some profit and this is not internet piracy you probably would not have to look far to find a country where a board could get server space and keep anonymity. Given the reasons for anonymity you would probably kill most US services. Facebook has been hemmoraging users due to it's insistence you use a legal name on it's service. It is actually a new way to troll on facebook to report someone for using a nickname because facebook closes the account and forces the users to produce documentation of their real name. I know a few FB gaming people who have used methods like this to kill off competition for national boards on games linked to facebook accounts. It is generally a good idea if you belong to one of these games to use other methods for logging in due to the ease of FB account hacking and the way facebook has been culling it's spoofed accounts.

    I advice parents of children I know never ever to use their real name on any service. It is just would lead a child molestor or even kidnapper right to your child. If the child gets bullied at school and their online identity is part of it then it becomes easy to drop the handle and participate again giving some ease to the abusers using their words to screw with them. It does not solve the problem completely, but with some supervision and educating the child about keeping their new name secret while participating with their friends you could make a dent. Kids probably do not get it as it seems they prize their online identity and it's reputation way too fucking much, but this may be a good time to start letting them know it is not the end of the world.

    As for you dayton I would suggest if you are going to be the gigantic genocidal racist fuckwad you are, use a nickname. Your attachment to your name puts you in jeopardy, and it also makes it much easier to blackball you or have an employer find you via search. You may be self or unemployed so it may not matter, but for others they choice to be a dayton might make it really easy for anyone including lurkers to screw with them. I have to wonder how your suggestion would stop a lurker from screwing with you while rendering you completely impotent to figure it out.
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  17. Diacanu

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    And Muslims think its okay to do as they wish to infidels.

    How are fundie Christians and fundie Muslim different again?
    I keep forgetting.
    It must be something.
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  18. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Having said that, why would anyone need not be a coward to call you a butt head psycho to your face?
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  19. Dayton Kitchens

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    I know I can walk successfully. Isn't the best way to avoid an argument to walk away.[/quote]

    So you are openly admitting you are too cowardly to say to a persons face all the crap you throw around here (and previously at the TrekBBS).
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I wouldn't have any problem saying exactly what I think about you to your face. I just don't want to stick around and reason with your autistic ramblings.
  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    I wouldn't have any problem saying exactly what I think about you to your face. I just don't want to stick around and reason with your autistic ramblings.[/quote]

    Sure. You can't admit you are a complete and utter coward. Don't worry. I doubt you are alone in this........
  22. El Chup

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    Which "proven lies" would they be? Are will be chicken out of answering this question like you always do?
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    Scenario:

    *a knock at shootER's door*

    "Oh, Dayton! What the hell are you doing so far from home?"

    "I came to see if you'd say the same things to me IRL that you've said on Wordforge!"

    "Well, yeah. I think you're views on gay marriage--among other things--are whacked out!"


    Then what happens? You just say, "Okay, just wanted to check! Good day, sir!" or do you stick around and try to argue?

    ISTR you posting the past that you rely on intimidation to try to win arguments with people, which certainly sounds like the threat of possible harm.

    Show up on my porch and I guarantee that will not go well for you in that regard.
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  24. Dayton Kitchens

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    Dinner and Ed629 frequently deliberately falsify what someone has stated in their posts. We've been over this before so don't act like you haven't heard of it before.
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  25. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    He's made several posts recently about using his reputation to intimidate people, and he has also mentioned that he uses his physical size as to intimidate, along with starting confrontations with those he is certain he can beat in a physical confrontation.
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  26. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    Hang on, you didn't accuse just them. You directly told me I am a liar. Tell me the lies.

    Oh, and....


    I offered to friend you on Facebook, from which you can find out my name, what I look like an where I work. What do I have to hide?
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  28. Dayton Kitchens

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    I should have specified El Chup. I have no intention of traveling overseas. So you and Rick Deckard need not fear.

    Though you might have to let Ed629 and dinner sleep on your couches for awhile if what they have posted already is any indication.
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  29. Dayton Kitchens

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    You've said I'm a racist. That is an outright lie.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    So you admit that you are threatening myself and @Dinner at the very least. You are saying that if we are overseas we have nothing to fear.

    Didn't @shootER already warn you about threats?