How Many Star Trek Episodes "Never Happened"?

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    That is, in how many did the great reset button happen at the end where the major events of the episode "never happened" and are not remembered by the characters?

    Some like ST:TNGs "Yesterdays Enterprise" were quite good.

    Some like Voyagers two part "Year of Hell".....I won't go into that here.

    Has anyone ever compiled a list of all the Trek episodes that never happened?

    I don't recall any in the Original Series.
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  2. Chad Kardashian

    Chad Kardashian Don't believe his lies

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    In Voyager: Time and Again, Non Sequitur, The Year of Hell, Timeless, and Fury.

    In DS9: Visionary, The Visitor, and Children of Time (sorta).

    In TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise, Cause and Effect, Parallels, All Good Things (sorta).

    I'm sure there were plenty in ENT, but I don't remember it well enough. And I don't think there were any in TOS.

    There actually haven't been that many, and Voyager gets too much crap for being the "reset button" series.
  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well, they pretended "the naked time", never happened.

    Technically, once Mcoy's timeline change was repaired, the history erasure of the Enterprise from "city on the edge of forever", never really occured, except in the memories of the landing party.

    Likewise the events of "tommorrow is yesterday", although I never really got the mechanics of that one.
    How did they not bump into a duplicate Enterprise?
    What erased the whole thing from happening in such a way that the Enterprise just wasn't there in the sky anymore?
    Eh, I don't strain my mind too hard on it, but it is a head scratcher.
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    Shirogayne Sheithforge Formerly Important

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    Voyager.

    Next. :)
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    JonathonWally Frakkin With Your Head

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    Temporal cold war erased the entire Enterprise series
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    Though arguably, that one did happen because Guinan remembers it and Sela was born due to alternate Tasha's trip back in time.

    The TNG ep Clues "never happened" in the sense you're talking about.

    The thing with those sorts of eps is, while they were great, you couldn't really put them in RPG adventures because the PCs arguably shouldn't get any experience points! Unless you had some players who were more interested in the story than in character improvement...
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  7. Dayton3

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    If most of the crew remembers the events, I don't consider it to be a reset.

    ST:TNGs "Cause and Effect" for example.

    Technically a reset, but the entire crew is aware of it and they have clear evidence of what happened in the time loops (Crusher's recordings, the time differential when they checked with StarFleet).

    I suppose in a way you could call ST:OS's "Tomorrow is Yesterday" a reset in a way since they change the events so Captain Christopher and the Security Guard don't remember their time on the Enterprise.

    But the entire crew still remembers those events apparently.

    In my view, the reset button (when no one but the viewer knows what happened) cheats the viewers and fans.
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    I think all of Enterprise is a 'splinter' timeline due to interference by the Borg. It didn't really happen that way, and there was no starfleet until after the Federation was formed.
  9. Chad Kardashian

    Chad Kardashian Don't believe his lies

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    No, the reason Enterprise never happened is because Riker played it out as some fantasy whenever he couldn't make a fucking decision on something.

    Remember that time he fell in love with the androgynous chick? He played the Enterprise holonovel of Trip getting pregnant in order to more closely understand her/him/it.
  10. Chuck

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    Perhaps Star Trek V.

    There was an interesting idea in a thread a while back (Diacanu?) that discussed the possibility of the whole movie being a dream sequence.
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    Enterprise.

    Next. :)
  12. marathon

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    Technically, the bestowment of transparent aluminum in 1986 should make everything afterwards a 'splinter' timeline due to interference by Scotty and McCoy ;)
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    "How do you know he didn't invent it?" :D
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    TAS's "Yesteryear"? Not quite a reset button, but close.
  15. Chad Kardashian

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    So would leaving behind modified 20th century technology incorporated with 23rd century technology, as Spock presumably did in "City on the Edge of Forever."

    Hell, taking a 19th century author aboard the Starfleet flagship and then returning him to his time could alter the timeline as well.

    Hell, it could be argued that Edith Keeler was never supposed to die, that it was Kirk's fault for taking her on the date or whatever. Bones could have simply restored the timeline by saving her life.
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    Voyager was a giant reset button. :garamet:

    Janeway: I'm gonna go drown myself in a coffee bath on the holodeck. If anyone comes into sensor range, fire a full spread of torpedoes and if that doesn't work, don't be afraid to use some shuttles.

    Chakotay: *his leaves change color, fall off*
  17. Chad Kardashian

    Chad Kardashian Don't believe his lies

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    Besides the five episodes I stated earlier, which other episodes of Voyager had a reset button at the end?
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    That line was always :wtf: to me.

    Whoever really did invent it suddenly will have been cheated of that, and that alone would make for some changes ;)
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    If there WAS a real inventer. ;)
  20. Chad Kardashian

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    Exactly. Just like Captain Janeway and Braxton were responsible for the computer boom over the last few decades because they accidentally caused a temporal whatsit and gave some hippy 29th century technology.
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    At least they didn't give 1986 the warp drive. The inventor of that is in the canon :soma:
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    I remember reading in the novelization that Scotty said that the guy was the inventor of transparent aluminum.
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    But of course.

    After what he'd done, what else could he say? :soma: :diacanu:
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, but it's all moot, since some German dude invented it IRL.

    So, we're not in Trek's timeline for sure.

    So, let's give up dreaming of tommorrow, and all get factory jobs, minivans full of brats, and die.

    :polarslam2:
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    Plus Khan didn't get shipped off into space a few years ago. Reality sucks.
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    JonathonWally Frakkin With Your Head

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    As far as I've heard, he's patented most of the parts and ideas behind it. maybe even got as far as mapping it's molecular structure, but he never actually constructed it.

    But that may have changed by now
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Plus Khan didn't get shipped off into space a few years ago. Reality sucks.[/QUOTE]

    OR, this timeline, the same German's next trick could be dilithium!
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    So far as we know :borg:
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  29. Diacanu

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    Um, no, he made it, here it is.

    [​IMG]
  30. Kyle

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    If we go by Greg Cox's Khan novels, he most certainly did - the Eugenics War was hidden to the public.

    ;)