Howcome there's no Conservative anti-fascist movement?

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    If you had read the background you would know that President Roosevelt fully intended to use these hostile encounters with German submarines as a pre text for open warfare with Nazi Germany.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Estaaablishment, estaaablishment, you aaaalways knooowww what's beeeest!!
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Tracker/Dayton, don't "thank you", rep that, I'm fucking mocking you.
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  4. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    And maybe he would have done, we'll never know, but it doesn't matter at all here.

    Pearl Harbour happened and the US joined the war.

    By that point the allies were already winning erg oldfellas' assertion of the old fallacy that the US saved us from fascism remains incorrect.
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    It's true many Americans have a simplified, one-sided view of history. But in trying to counter that view, it's possible to go too far the other way. We shouldn't discount the impact of programs like lend-lease in keeping Britain afloat, nor the billions of Marshall Plan dollars used to rebuild after the war. Defeating the Nazis was a team effort, the most remarkable in history. Shame to diminish it by squabbling over who gets credit for what.
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  6. Dayton Kitchens

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    Technically, the U.S. and Britain (and Canada and the Free French) saved continental Europe from occupation by the Soviets. Without massive U.S. and other allied forces on land in Europe at the end of World War Two, there would've been nothing to stop the Soviets from rolling on through what remained of Germany and France after Nazi Germany had surrendered.
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  7. K.

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    I think you logged into the wrong account there. What you just said was historically accurate.
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  8. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    my bad
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    This.
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  10. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Maybe, but it's irking to say the least to perpetually hear how America "saved is from the Nazis" when the simple truth is that by the point the US joined the war it was more a case of reinforcing the side which was already winning than turning the tide and rescuing the British.

    A lot of people fought and died to turn that tide long before Pearl Harbour and it's not unfair to expect that fact to be respected rather than ignored out of jingoism.
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  11. Dayton Kitchens

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    It is my regret to inform you that aside from a small minority (of which I'm one) very few Americans are interested in history. Their own, much less the nations, much, much less the worlds.

    I think I can say with some accuracy that the majority of Americans "learn" what history they do from movies and television. Which can be pretty useful if chosen carefully but that is seldom the case.

    I remember some comments over a television miniseries about George Washington back in the 1980s. Someone said that about the only thing most Americans would get out of it was that Washington had some interest in his best friends wife.
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  12. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    if you're so interested in history, maybe you should take the time to learn something about it rather than parrot back what's in your 40 year old encyclopedias?
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    What's wrong with encyclopedias from 1979? Actually that would be an improvement. My parents set of World Book Encyclopedias were printed in 1964.
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    Perhaps it's worth considering an update?
  16. Dayton Kitchens

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    I've been wanting a new set of World Books for ages. My first move on World Books is to go to the second book of the "S" (So to Sz IIRC).
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    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    You'll have to wait till Christmas.
  18. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well, I'll be buggered, they're still in print.

    https://www.worldbook.com/

    Britannica stopped making physical copies in the 00's.
    World Book wins.
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  19. Dayton Kitchens

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    Normally no one spends hundreds of dollars on me at Christmas. Nor I them. Besides, I don't have the space in our house now for a World Book set. Amy allows me only so much space for books and no more. If I wanted a set of World Books I would have to pack up and store at least 30 of my existing books.

    Or my entire collection of Hoover Digest.
  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Anyway, righties, why no Nazi punching?

    I'm not buying the "we like to be law abiding", line.

    Conservatives break the law all the goddamned time.
    It's almost always white collar shit though.

    Almost.
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  21. Amaris

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    It's like they've forgotten that the Russians had a huge hand in it, too.
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  22. Diacanu

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    Remember, Hitler turned 20 million Russians into hamburger, but somehow he was also a pinko commie leebrul.
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  23. Amaris

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    Well, yeah, it's right there in the name! Hitler was a socialist! Just like North Korea is a Democratic Republic, and the USSR was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics! Oh, uh, I mean... well... you see... Hitler... commie... um... AOC is a communist!
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    I hope this thread doesn’t catch on fire, there sure is a lot of straw in here.
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    Almost, as in except for the several hundred thousands of war crimes perpetrated every few years.
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  27. Amaris

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    War crimes? Don't be silly, that's just legitimate business.
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    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    So just read that of that ICE raid that arrested 600, 300 have been proven to be documented/citizens.
    300 wrongly arrested for the colour of their skin...

    I have to wonder why there isn't a conservative anti racist movement?
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  29. Amaris

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    Because a house divided against itself cannot stand.
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  30. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    if you only had a brain....
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