Hundreds of young trans people returning to original sex.

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  1. oldfella1962

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    that female (I guess) on the back of the dolphin is transitioning from human to fish apparently! It would be hard to hang on with a tail like that, especially on tight turns. And BOO! HISS! for the Marine Boy producers for not having enough diversity in the cast.
    And a white blue eyed dolphin? :chris: You may as well put a swastika on it!
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    Nova has never advocated for.any such thing, you cretin.

    Leave mermaids out of this. We know you only want to protect the red-headed ones anyway :bailey:
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    That's a lie.
    I was there in the Chappelle thread when she explained this shit to your stupid ass.

    For someone who allegedly hates Trump, you sure do like adopting his tactics.
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    Charlie Evans? Charlie X? Hmmmm.
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    Advocating is not the same as signing legal documents, you dope. If a stranger on the internet wants to support a young person in an age where we are still fighting for acceptance, I dont see what the problem is.

    And whether you want to like it or not, people can and have known that they are transgender at a very young age. I highly doubt Nova is actively making this change more accessible to these children simply by being supportive.

    The majority of these children/preteens/teens all have parents or guardians of some type that can determine whether that is a path they should/are ready to take. And if they change their mind along the way, that's part of their journey. No one is forcing this decision on anyone.

    But dont worry, theres plenty of parents that will beat and shame it out of their child just for considering it, so your bigotry can live on.
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  6. The Flashlight

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    Piss off, you and your ilk are the ones who should never be allowed contact with children.

    I saw this article a couple of days ago and knew that if I or someone else posted it we'd get the usual tsumani of SJW hysteria. There's only one narrative the SJW/LGBTQ++BBQ want to push, and Dinner is exactly right, it's the narrative that serves to validate their own sickness. Sorry, but not every 9 y/o who one day decides to announce that they're really the opposite gender has to be taken seriously, much less rushed to the nearest SJW psychiatrist/doctor to begin life-altering puberty blocker drugs and hormones. Parents who do this should be relieved of their parental duties and their children placed in emergency foster care until an investigation can determine whether the parents are using their child as a SJW guinea pig to score "woke" points with their SJW friends.

    Trannies who decide to return to their original gender isn't a new thing, and there have been researchers brave enough to risk the SJW onslaught who have talked about it before. And no, contrary to John's blather, they don't all decide to "detransition" just because of societal rejection and abuse.

    There have also been studies detailing how communities can experience waves of young girls all deciding they want to "transition" at the same time, a phenomenon born out of peer pressure, not wanting to feel left out, seeing peers get all sorts of attention and special treatment, seeing adults having to tiptoe around these silly kids to make sure they don't say or do anything that could remotely be interpreted as non-affirming. Eventually these kids come to realize that trannie status brings with it, not rejection and abuse, but power and privilege.
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    I'm not even going to engage with anything you have to say if you cant even use proper respectful language.
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    I don't give a fuck. :shrug:
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  9. Amaris

    Amaris Hopeful Staff Member Super Moderator

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    He's a troll. He will do and say whatever it takes to make people angry, to hurt them, and to cause as much shit as he can. His track record here is full of misogyny, racism, and bigotry, and yeah, he knows exactly what he's saying when he says it. He's been schooled on those issues before, he doesn't care. Like Dinner, it just emboldens him to become worse.
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    Sounds that way. They both have the logic of my sister.
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  11. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    So, do we have any actual figures for this or any breakdown of the demographics?

    Or is it simply one persons' reported experience?
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  12. Federal Farmer

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    I think it's unfortunate that this happens, but I'm not sure what can be done? Perhaps psychology might need to do more work on this before suggesting surgery? I just don't know enough to form much of an opinion.
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  13. Federal Farmer

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    Well I would hope that there's no pressure, especially among kids.
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    Amaris Hopeful Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I linked to it earlier in the thread:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6212091/

    Summary:
    In other words, a very tiny number of people who detransition, and many of those cases due to peer pressure, alienation, and medical issues (including post-op pain that never ceased) with the transition.

    Yeah, it's a no-go there. Kids who believe they are transgender are given time to fully explore that side of themselves before they're old enough to hit puberty, at which point they can be given puberty blockers which will give them time enough to decide. They'll see a psychologist, and other specialists, at which point when they become adults they can start taking hormones. Children do not receive SRS (sexual reassignment surgery), and the pathway I just mentioned is only if they continue to meet criteria upon which they must be in agreement. There's no coaxing or cajoling. It has to be 100% free will.
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  15. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Thanks but I was putting the OPs' assertion on the spot, so to speak, not yours. If he cannot offer any systematic data and his "study" isn't, then all he has is the cherry picked opinion of a single human being, one who is by definition biased in the first place.
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  16. IndigoTiger

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    I know alot of trans folks in various places on their journey, parents of potentially trans children of all ages, activists, etc and among them all, NEVER have I seen anything other than encouragement and compassion to be open about who you are, no matter what that means.
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    He can't, but that is because Dinner is a bigot. I know you give him the benefit of the doubt as you do everyone here, but Dinner moves from vulnerable class to vulnerable class, attempting to knock them down. He has a horrid posting history on the treatment of Muslims, while the LGBT community is a popular target, as are women, refugees, and immigrant children. He posts sources from alt-right news sites, lately it has been Quillette, and he often doubles down on his positions when he is shown to be wrong. I wish you the best of luck in wringing actual data out of him, because usually he just shrieks louder when you disagree.
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  18. Federal Farmer

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    Have you encountered parents who pressure their kids to transition out of peer pressure from other "woke" parents? Also, have you encountered a kid who maybe were "going through a phase" shall we say and then later realized they were cis gendered and everyone was fine with that?
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Then the ball's in his court.
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    I've seen many people who have shifted to and fro depending on where they are in their life. I've seen people judge it harshly and I've seen people think nothing of it and, in fact, validate their right to evolve as a human. Because what does it matter if they're not hurting anyone?
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Don't be using common sense in here.
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    No. And I know actual trans and non-binary parents (some I know quite well/are in my polycule).
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  23. Federal Farmer

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    It only matters if kids are involved.
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    Hey look everyone, Truckstop John is up on stage, virtue signaling!

    Let's all give him a round of applause! :lol:

    :clap: :clap: :clap:
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    Do you feel the same way about religion?
    Hell of a lot more rapey priests and youth pastors than trans folks. Not to mention the ideology of Christianity is much more personally destructive than the appreciation of various forms of humanity ‘forced’ on kids by ‘woke’ parents.
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    I'm a christian, but I'm not religious. I personally wouldn't force religion on my hypothetical kids. Are you suggesting Catholics shouldn't take their kids to mass because they might get raped?
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    Today's psychology profession has become synonymous with left-wing politics. The type of people drawn to the psychology profession are by and large the types of people who become SJW authoritarians.

    A child who tells his/her parents they want to become the opposite gender gets taken to a left-wing progressive mental health professional who fancies him/herself a SJW activist. So the child's statements are taken at face vaule, never questioned, and the circumstances surrounding the child's declaration are never investigated, because the "professional" has an agenda to push and a narrative to peddle.
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    Patently false, but it's the kind of thing this douchebag likes to spout because he knows nobody will take the time to fact-check.

    Teaching children about Christ's love, the sacrifice of the Cross, and the path to eternal salvation is more important than pushing your corrupt sociopolitical agenda, an agenda you adopted to help yourself feel better about being a closeted homosexual.

    Of course, in our society you're entitled to whatever opinion about Christianity you'd like to have. The price you pay for your arrogance in life is eternal damnation. Enjoy! :)
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    What would you define as ‘forcing’ religion on a kid?
    What would you define as ‘forcing’ ‘wokeness’ on a kid?
    And no, not just Catholics and priests. Today the incidents of sexual assault are higher among Protestants, especially youth pastors.
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  30. Diacanu

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    *Raises hand*
    :yes:

    If a toy raped as many kids as Catholics, that toy would be recalled.
    If KFC raped as many kids as Catholicism, people would stop going there, and it would go out of business.
    Shit, look at the bleeding from the guts Subway did over Jared!

    But because God and fear of Hell is involved, parents keep risking their kids.

    No, I have no hesitation asking Catholics to quit.

    Catholics?
    Quit.
    Get your kids away from that shit.

    You don't have to be atheist, but stop being Catholic.
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