iPhone 5 (working title) Speculation Thread.

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  1. KIRK1ADM

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    I'm not sure about the Aria. I do know that each of my Verizon phones that I have owned have all received their updates. The Droid 1 received all of its updates while I owned it, my HTC Incredible did as well as my Droid X.
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    Has Verizon pushed out an update for the Droid 1 to run FroYo? I haven't heard of one yet (the hardware can certainly handle it, apparently one can overclock the processor to almost 1 gig, impressive). Verizon, it should be noted, is better about updating its phones than AT&T and T-Mobile are (I don't remember how Sprint is).

    AT&T has been promising an update for the Aria "any day now" almost since I got the phone (back in August) to put FroYo on it. There's been nothing.

    I'm not an "Android hater" nor am I an Apple fanboy. There are a few areas where Android devices beat the dogshit out of the iPhone. However, my iPod Touch has never made me so damned irrationally mad as my Aria has. Some of that can be placed on known bugs with the phone (for example, if I want the headphones to work, I have to reboot the phone and I can't allow the screen to go blank too many times after doing this, or the headphones will stop working. You'd think that since this is a known issue with the Aria they'd have pushed out a fix for it by now, but no.), others of them lie clearly with Android. I wish that they'd have written Android so that when you hit the "home" button it killed the app you were presently in, while hitting the "back" button would allow that app to continue to run in the background. Because there are times when I most assuredly want an app to be killed and not simply allowed to run in the background.

    I'm also pissed as hell at how little memory the phone has. When I bought it, I thought that I'd be able to use the microSD card as part of the phones memory to download apps to, but no. I can only store apps on the phone's memory, which allows me only about 1 gig (or less) for apps. I am constantly getting "low memory" warnings on my phone, and having to delete this or that app, just so that I have enough space on the phone to update another app. I know there are people who say that you really should only keep apps on your phone that you use every day, but this is bullshit. I don't use the GPS app every day, or even most days, but fuck if I'll delete the bastard, because when I need the app, I don't want to have to search for something to delete, download the app, let it sort everything out, and then be able to use the fucker. (I'm told that FroYo allows you to use the microSD as an extension of the phone's memory so that you don't have this problem. Be nice if I could get FroYo on the phone to find out.) Stupid. I should be able to use the microSD for apps and not just pictures or other media files.

    Then there's the matter of rooting the phone. I thought that it'd be as easy as jailbreaking my Touch was. Nope. If I owned an EVO or one of the really popular phones, it probably would be, but because I own an Aria, it ain't. I'd love to be able to delete the AT&T crapware on my phone, but I just can't manage to do it, and I haven't been able to get detailed enough help from the various Android forums to figure out what I've been doing wrong. Yes, there are apps on my Touch that jailbreaking won't allow me to get rid of, but there's only 2 or 3 of them, and I can at least hide them, so that I never have to see them. On my Aria there's 11 that I'd delete if I could. I also don't understand why some apps work better on my iPod than they do on the Aria. Opera, Google Calendar, and Shopper are available on both devices, in every case, the iPod version works significantly better than the Android version does. I'd think that at the very least, they'd be identical to one another, or the Android version would work better (since any updates could be posted immediately, rather than having to go through the approval process), but the Android versions have fewer features, are less capable, or tend to crash more than the iOS versions (and I should point out that with my iPod being jailbroken, iOS is more unstable than were it stock).
  3. KIRK1ADM

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    I believe the Droid 1 got the update last August. Personally, I don't care for HTC phones. Unless they come out with some exceptional ie, quality phone with a decent battery I might get it. My first experience with HTC was when I purchased the G1. I gave HTC a second shot with the Incredible. A nice phone, I loved the amoled screen, but still horrible battery life.

    I think you are correct about pushing out updates and T-Mobile.

    I've been happiest with the Motorola line of Droids. I've been very happy with the three phones I've owned made by them. I will more than likely upgrade to either a Motorola Bionic, or X2, depending on when either comes out and the features and hardware on either of them.
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    I've not had any battery issues with my phone. I don't use it to listen to podcasts on (tried it once, and the battery didn't last very long, have heard similar tales from people with a variety of smartphones who use them to listen to music/podcasts for long intervals), but I really like the HTC Sense UI. (I've played with a friend's Motorola Droid [not sure which version] and found the UI irritating.)


    You're also the only person I've heard of who's used various UIs for Android and preferred the Motorola UI. :shrug:
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    I don't prefer the Motorola UI. I prefer the Motorola Droid's though. I actually like the Android Vanilla, and somewhat like the Sense UI that HTC uses. From what it looks like blur is sort of being fazed out with the upcoming 4g droid phones.
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  6. Sean the Puritan

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    Ok, so we're getting iCloud, and iOS 5 which ought to enable OTA software updates.

    But, no new iPhone. Hmmmm.
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    This was predicted months ago. Apple basically said no new iaphone at this conf. Best guess is a Sept release of a 4G type phone. Current predictions include better cameras moving the flash further away from the lens and an updated chip.
  8. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    4G is definitely a make or break feature. My contract is up in August with AT&T and I plan to switch to Verizon. I can wait to see how the iPhone 5 will stack up against the Droid's out there, even if it doesn't come out until December or later. My old iPhone 3GS is still doing the job just fine, my only complaint is my network and most of the time it's fine too.
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  10. The Night Funky

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    The big issue with LTE 4G phones seems to be battery life. The Thunderbolt (which everyone loves) has a 6 hour battery life, at best. The other phones I've heard about aren't much better. Hopefully, they'll get the kinks worked out the tech soon. No effin' way am I going to be able to get by with a phone that only goes 6 hours between charges.
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    It's virtually certain the next Gen iphone will not support 4G LTE. Apple has a long history of waiting until the tech is really good before implementing it. Battery life, as pointed out is still shit. The iPhone after this next one is the net to have it.
  12. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

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    Tuckerfan, I have to use a Mophie juice pack plus with my iPhone 4. It is crazy. :(

    The bulk of AT&T's users actually use wifi predominantly, since most phone users use their phones in places wifi exists (at least some of the time).
  13. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    I stand by my statement. I'm not going to be on slow 3G when 4G is available and has been for a while.
  14. Sean the Puritan

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    If the next iPhone (whether it's called the iPhone 4S, or the iPhone 5) has ALL of the next few features, I'll upgrade. Otherwise, I'm waiting.

    1. Faster processor (iPad 2 A5 Processor or better).
    2. 4G capable.
    3. 64GB memory (fuck iCloud).
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  15. Uncle Albert

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    4) Jumbo sized butt plug with built-in lube dispenser.

    :gay:
  16. KIRK1ADM

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    Cool. Oh wait those have been available on android phones well since beginning. Lol
  17. Sean the Puritan

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    Yeah, but the drawback is that you have to suffer through having an Android phone.
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    :wtf::wtf::confuzzle::soma::wtf::wtf::wtf: :confuzzle::soma::wtf::wtf::wtf: :confuzzle::soma::wtf::

    :technobabble: :technobabble: :technobabble: :technobabble: :technobabble:

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  19. Tex

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    And they are plagued with viruses on top of that. People knock Apple for difficulty they put developers through to get things into the App Store but that is what keeps it running so smoothly. I've yet to use any droid that comes close to being as smooth as an iPhone. I am still interested in trying out a few of the Android tablets to see how they stack up against an iPad. Well, I should say I want to try out future Android tablets, the current ones are lacking at best.
  20. The Night Funky

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    I don't get the issue with hooking your phone up to a PC. No matter what kind of phone you have, you have to plug it into something to charge it. Most people sit down at their computers several times a day. Why is it so much harder to hook your phone up to your PC than it is to a wall charger or car adapter?

    Mind you, my Android phone has OTA updates, and so far, AT&T has only bothered to use it once, and as a result, I have to completely flatten and restore my phone (meaning I lose everything, including apps) currently installed on the phone and have to start from scratch. Never had to do that when I updated my iPod Touch.
  21. KIRK1ADM

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    I know. It is so tough having the freedom of choice, customization, and memory expansion. I hate having to go to the manufacturer owned store to pull the battery or change it. Err, whoops, that is the iphone. :lol:
  22. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Well, having used both the iPhone as well as several of the leading Android handsets, I can honestly say that in MY opinion (the only one that counts, ultimately, as far as where my money gets spent) the iPhone is the superior product. So... your opinion is duly noted. Well, no, actually it's not. But thanks anyway!
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    I like my iphone, which really annoys me because lots of Apples attitudes bug me as a consumer. I have my pc for being able to do whatever I want and install whatever though, ultimately I want my phone to just work and the iphone does that well.

    Not supporting standard network features like video calls really pisses me off though.
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  24. John Castle

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    You familiar with one of these?

    [​IMG]

    It's a telephone. It ain't a hobby kit -- you make telephone calls with it. You can't customize it, upgrade it, root it, woot it, toot it, or stick it up yer pooper and have it massage yer widdle prostate.

    You familiar with one of these?

    [​IMG]

    It's an iPhone. You make telephone calls with it. You can also send email with it, browse the internet with it, watch movies on it, listen to music on it, play games on it and a bunch of other stuff. You can customize it by purchasing software and installing the software on it. You can also hack it, root it, whatever-else it, just in case all of those other things you can already do with it slipped through the amnesia hole and you forgot you can already do them. Or maybe you want a different UI on the thing -- one that's clunkier and uses more of the machine's resources. Hey, nobody ever said you couldn't give a Mercedes a puke-green Ford Pinto body kit.

    You familiar with one of these?

    [​IMG]

    It's an AC adapter. You plug this:

    [​IMG]

    into this:

    [​IMG]

    and it charges the battery. And if for some reason you manage to wear the battery completely down, which would mean that you spend enough time on your phone to qualify as a teenage girl, you can get this:

    http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Replacement-Opening-Zeetron-Microfiber/dp/B0043KEXUQ
  25. KIRK1ADM

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    I agree, the iphone is a great device. I just prefer devices that allow me the freedom to make changes to them. After all, it's my phone, I'm the one who is paying thousands of dollar for it. I should be able to do what I'd like to them, including removing the back cover and pulling out a battery and changing it if I would like.

    There are good things as well as bad things about both iphone as well as the assortment of android handsets.

    Ultimately, what is good for one person, is not good for another. Cell phones, especially smart phones are devices that have to meet the needs of the individual who is purchasing, or using the device.
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    :wtf: Thousands of dollars?! Holy fuck, dude, which phone did you buy?! :lol:
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    Okay so seriously, what is difficult to comprehend with the above. You pay a reduced rate for the phone, if you are willing to sign a two year contract to the service provider. How much does all that add up to after 24 months?
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    Okay, you might have something there, except that what you're paying thousands of dollars for isn't the phone itself, but the phone and 24 months of service. By itself, the phone doesn't cost more than a grand, tops, no matter which phone you get. The way you threw it out there, it sounded like you got one of these godawful monstrosities:

    [​IMG]

    Now that's a phone that costs thousands of dollars. And is gay.
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    I never said the phone cost thousands. I said it is a phone that I am paying thousands for.
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    Ohhh. So you chose your carrier and plan just for the phone? I've never gotten why people do that. I like Apple stuff, but there was no way I was ever gonna do business with AT&T to have an iPhone, especially when I can use Skype, a iPod Touch and the city's WiMax network. Sure, I can't receive calls that way -- then again, I don't want to receive calls, just place 'em. :D