Joker

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  1. Paladin

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    Collider guys say Joker is very good in their non-spoiler review:

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    There's a flub in the trailers, I just noticed. If you look at the sign Phoenix is flipping on the street which says "Everything Must Go!" you'll notice that there's a handle of some sort on the back of it. When they clock him with the sign in the alley a few scenes later on, there's no handle. Oops.
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    Wrong font! :D

    And Variety likes it, too. Be aware that review might be spoilerish, depending on how much you read between the lines.
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    So, apparently, somebody gets their hand chopped off is what I took from that. ;)
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    Really? I think it's obvious that Joker freezes someone in carbonite.
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    I’m glad this got it’s own thread, it’s not part of the DCU.
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    didn't like it? More like they did a "drawn & quartered" job on that movie! :shock:
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    Gotta temper expectations here. It's getting an awful lot of positive press.
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    I have to admit I am really interested in it. I tend to like this version of the joker better than the complete lunatic version of the joker. The joker story of the jack nicholson joker I find boring and do not care for. The joker that is developed from a person who was a decent person who becomes disenchanted with humanity due to the sickness in society and lets chaos out because of what went on shows a more duplicitous psychological personality that I would more associate with a comical psychopath who uses more chaotic means. The sort of guy who could give a person flowers and then in the next step shoot a person in the face is more my type of joker and you would have to have both sides in you. The jack nicholson joker was just a criminal nasty who puts on a dance routine in an attempt to be edgy and strange.

    I will say that if done right this joker is going to be an inspiration to unstable people as the dark knight joker was. It is not that it should not be done, but it is going to be the mickey and malory syndrome.

    Stopping this here for a red room thread.
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    "JOKER gives us the first incel folk hero."

    :lol:

    So it looks like several Wordforgers (waves to FF) will really like the film.
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    Your obsession with me is pretty pathetic.
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    I am predicting an interesting problem. Trans people are going to get kicked out of the theaters. Many theater chains already have limitations on costumes, but they are all coming out and saying no costumes permitted. This is something that gets used against trans people. I have heard people complain about being tossed out of places with no costume rules because prejudiced security people have decided that crossdressing constitutes a costume and hiding your identity. I have personally experienced it, and it becomes a weapon to discriminate against people who are not in costume by declaring normal dressing of the opposite gender as a costume.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...aring-for-the-release-of-joker-221922127.html
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  19. Diacanu

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    Gonna see it in a couple hours.
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    Watch out for crazy incels!
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    What if he IS the crazy incel? He ought to be ok in that case.
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    Reminds me of the joke about the guy who got caught carrying a bomb on a plane.

    The authorities asked if he was a terrorist. No, he said. He brought the bomb on board as a protection against terrorists bombing the plane.

    How? the authorities asked. He replied: well, what are the odds there'd be two bombs on board an airplane?
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    That's exactly what motivated my comment. That joke. ;)
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    Five hours until I see it!
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    Blacking out from “pre-gaming” in two hours, twenty minutes. ;)
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    tomorrow night for me! I bought tickets a couple of days ago. It's going to look great on the big screen!
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    Well...damn. That was pretty damned good.

    A few scattered thoughts:

    1. This is NOT a comic book movie. Most everything that happens is all too plausible. The action and violence in this film are realistic, and the story does not turn on anything absurd.

    2. Phoenix...yeah, he's got to get at least a nomination for this. He simply becomes the character. Fantastic acting. When I saw The Master a few years back, I thought he must be the best American actor; this film reinforces that opinion.

    3. Contrary to what some have suggested, this film does not break the existing Batman mythos. You think it's going to, but it doesn't.

    4. A nicely executed revelation late in the film makes us realize the protagonist is further gone than we realized.

    5. The cinematography is gorgeous.

    6. The film was gripping, and I felt really involved with the main character.

    7. There are a couple of instances of really shocking violence, and, in those moments, you believe Fleck's transition to Joker.

    8. Political messaging? I got this: the world is uncaring (the city, its social workers, Thomas Wayne) and often cruel (the youth gang, the subway guys, Murray), and a desperate person at the margins of mental health (like Arthur) lashing out is a consequence. The "kill the rich" movement that arises is not portrayed positively, but more as another negative consequence of the kind of world Joker laments.

    So, excellent film. Highly recommended.

    8.0/10
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  29. Diacanu

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    Did you catch the "Dark Knight Returns", nod?
    I'll put it in spoilers.

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    Wow, totally went by me (though it's been awhile since I read TDKR). Good catch!
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