Julian Assange dragged out of embassy and arrested

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    You do remember that the North Koreans started the war don't you? Not the South Koreans or the United States.
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    Of course I do, but the end result was essentially as I've described it was it not? After all the fighting and the bullets stopped flying there was a DMZ in something not a million miles from the old border.

    Also remember how there came to be a North and South Korea in the first place.
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    UK signs Julian Assange's US extradition papers

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/13/uk/julian-assange-extradition-order-us-gbr-intl/index.html

    The United Kingdom has signed an extradition request for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who faces charges in the US under the Espionage Act.

    UK Home Secretary Sajid Javid said he signed the papers on Wednesday, a day after the US Justice Department formally asked Britain to extradite the 47-year-old Australian.

    "First of all I am very pleased the police were able to apprehend him and now he is rightly behind bars because he broke UK law," Javid told BBC Radio 4 on Thursday.

    "There is an extradition request from the US that is before the courts tomorrow but yesterday I signed the extradition order and certified it and that will be going in front of the courts tomorrow," he added.

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    So barring any court blocking the extradition it looks as if Assange will be on his way here. Soon.
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    So, proceedings are ongoing, with most of the "free press" observing a total media blackout, despite the travesties of justice piling up.

    Latest from the US side is the declaration that their jurisdiction extends globally, but that first amendment protections do not. Let the implications of that sink in for a moment.

    And consider that the treatment of Assange is being used as a template elsewhere, with Bolsanaro's fascists in Brazil making an almost identical charge against Glenn Greenwald for his work.
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    It is good to see julian appreciated for his efforts to get donald trump elected.
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    Should Assange, Be forced to were a Tenctacle monster costume?
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    So just keeping score, anyone here besides Rick still cheering for this guy or did he lose your support when his "keeping government honest" cost Hillary the election.
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    While not for a moment legitimising this nonsense about costing Clinton the election, you do realise that it's perfectly consistent to disagree with some of what he's done and also disagree with the travesty of justice that's going on and the wider precedent it sets for journalism?
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    So Hillary is corrupt?

    I don't think anyone disputes that.
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    Whether you want to admit it or not, the release of those emails from Wikileaks followed by the Comey letter so close to election day had a profound impact on race. Why do you think liberals still repeat BUT HER EMAILS four years later? It's all people were talking about at the time. If you actually lived in America you would know that.


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    It's what Democrats chose to blame. But there are many inputs that decide the outcome of an election. Your article only mentions the Comey letter. The majority of others, including the fact that she had been fucking around with classified information on a private email server, were entirely within her control. If she hadn't been such a piss-poor candidate she would have been grinding Donald Trump into mush - as she had been widely expected to.

    Regardless, the idea that journalists must temper their work in order to give effect to a political outcome that you, I or anyone else is pleased with is reprehensible. Assange compared the choice on offer in 2016 as choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea. But journalists are entitled to favour one candidate if they wish and they are entitled to try to benefit that candidate too.

    All of which is utterly irrelevant to our discussion about Assange's impending extradition for the exposure of war crimes. It would be nice if people would discuss that instead.
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    Which came in response to Wikileaks

    You'll get no argument from me about Hillary's piss poor candidacy. But the drop in her poll numbers after Wikileaks and Comey can not be ignored.

    You were trying to deny a fact and I corrected you.

    Far as Assange's extradition, he illegally obtained and leaked classified material. Then he interfered in our elections. He's going to pay for his crimes. Deal with it.
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    Comey's intervention was his own choice, and highly improper given his position. Why isn't the witch-hunt targeting him?

    It can be seen in context, and those two things can be de-coupled rather than conflated, as you're trying your best to do.

    You were the one who brought up the election when this has nothing to do with it.

    And you're again trying to conflate other things - the leaker and the journalist to whom he leaks. Assange is the latter, and if you want to criminalise that, then enjoy your police state. But be honest about it and stop trying to mix it up with your obvious desire for revenge for everything else.
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    Why is Trump still trying to GET her emails four years later, as evidenced in the "perfect" call with Ukraine? Why are Republicans STILL hooked on Uranium One?

    If you think it's the Left that doesn't let shit go, you're fucking kidding yourself.
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    Absolutely. And the reverse is true as well. The only chance either of them had to be elected was to be up against such a wildly unpopular candidate.

    It's not for nothing that I "sat it out" by voting third-party. But this time, I will vote for whoever the Democrat candidate is (with the possible exception of Bloomberg), because I don't see how anyone could be worse than Donald Trump. The man (I use the term loosely here...) is a total disgrace and a disgrace to the country.

    I always tell Europeans who ask me about "my president" that my president is named Emmanuel Macron. (And before that I said my president was named François Hollande. I'm not picky. Anyone is better than Trump.)
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    I brought it up because it has an effect on how people think of him. If you don't like it, too bad.

    It takes two to tango you idiot. The journalist only has that information because it was given to him by Assange.


    :lmao:

    I'll enjoy the fact that my country pisses you off so much that you can't stop bitching about it year in and year out.
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    :facepalm:

    What? Do you understand that Assange was the one recieving the leaks, and then publishing them? That's distinct from being the leaker and is legitimate journalistic activity in any sane society.

    Nope, I like your country and I enjoy being there. I don't like your state-corporate plutocrats and their malign effect on the world. Another thing you're (worringly) unable to make a distinction on.
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