Kirk Was Right, These Kids CAN'T Steer

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tuckerfan, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:07 AM.

  1. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    But touchscreens work so well on their phones!
    Watcha think, @Shirogayne?
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    The Night Monkey Definitely not Peter Parker

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    Ha! We now have an explanation for buttons on the Enterprise.
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    Bickendan Custom Title Administrator Faceless Mook Writer

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    Or the Galactica's bridge
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    too much too fast, but give it a few years and they will be operating ships with enhanced reality systems.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I doubt it. Those types of systems are good for when someone needs to make split second reactions and the bottleneck is getting information to them fast enough.

    For many operations the problem is a different one, rather a need for confidence in decision making and control.
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    Minsc&Boo Fresh Meat

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    I find the touch screen business dubious.
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    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    We don't fly aircraft with touchscreens; there's no need to try and drive ships using them.

    Give the helmsmen / lee helmsmen wheels and throttles, which are completely intuitive to everyone, and standardize the displays across ship types so that information such as course, speed, turns-for-knots, and so on is readily readable. In aviation, instruments tend to be grouped in a similar fashion so that pilots can easily reference them and develop a 'scan' when instrument flying.

    While digital displays with numbers are okay, round dials with needles (even digital versions of them) offer an advantage because your eye can scan over them quickly, and the position of the needle tells you if you are in a normal range or outside it. Not only that, a bank of round dials side by side, oriented so that needles point straight up (or nearly so) in the 'normal range' allows the eye to immediately pick out an abnormal reading, because the associated needle is cockeyed compared to the others.

    All this ergonomic stuff isn't anything new- it sounds like the Navy would benefit from a return to fundamentals. Touch screen controls that aren't fucking standardized throughout the fleet are a recipe for trouble.

    In the summer of 1989, I got to be the JOOD/ conning officer (under instruction) aboard USS Midway a few times as a midshipman. Back then, the helmsman and lee helmsmen stood for the entire four hour watch behind the ship's wheel and engine order telegraph, and read the course off an honest-to-God binnacle compass. I do like that those folks get to sit down, these days. :)
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  9. Minsc&Boo

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    Don't want too much sitting down to that is bad dfor the back too.