local cop takes care of business like a mo'fo

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  1. oldfella1962

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    damn! Cop doesn't even have time to think about taking his time! :lol: The second he pulls up the shit hits the fan and hilarity ensues. :bergman: The story: career felon steals a gun and kidnaps a woman. Cop arrives in time to engage the bad guy and save her life! :salute: The woman gets shot by the bad guy (survives) the cop gets shot at (car hit but he's fine) the bad guy eats a bullet :bergman: and the crowd goes wild. Just...like...that.

    There is a follow-up vid floating around which is basically a tutorial on how to deal with the aftermath of a shootout: treating the wounded, counseling the cop who had to kill somebody, etc etc.
    Whatever kind of training Burke County is doing they need to keep it up! Discuss....

    https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/D...t-between-deputy-and-kidnapper-538192211.html
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    My condolences to the poor nurses at the home where oldfella lives. Cleaning up that much old guy jizz had to be disgusting.
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  4. Spaceturkey

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    Geez...
    imagine if the kidnapper hadn't had a god given right to own a gun in the first place?
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    Since the guy was a career felon, something tells me he wasn't legally allowed to carry a firearm. Either way, he got shot. He deserved to get shot and the officer is a hero. Oh wait! The officer is black, you say? Yes, he's a hero.
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    Hey, why don't you go down to Burke County and kidnap someone? We'll be rooting for you!
  7. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Yet he got hold of one.

    Which is apparently easy to do.
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  8. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    the kidnapper didn't have the right! Did you follow the link? Here's another link. The kidnapper was a convicted felon and had no right to bear arms - he stole the gun (which I found out from another news source).

    https://www.policeone.com/officer-s...ally-shoots-kidnapping-suspect-in-gun-battle/
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    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Yeah, but the guy he stole it from presumably did have the right?
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    funny thing... I haven't been convicted of a felony in nearly 30 years.
    guess who will never legally own a gun?
    even funnier... because storage laws and responsibility are fairly strict here, guess who likely won't get a hold of a stolen gun?
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    did you watch the video? The way the cop was positioned the car door was at an angle which would likely deflect a bullet or absorb a lot of energy and the windshield would likely do the same. Tactically it was a perfect opportunity to engage the target while protecting yourself & minimizing your profile in the process. The cop paid attention in class (or just has a good tactical mindset) no doubt about it.

    That said Burke County has a lot of great cops led by the legendary Alfonzo Williams
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    Yet our criminals struggle to do so.

    They have to make do with knives and killing people far less often.
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    Yup... here if you have legally registered weapons you have to have a gun safe.
    That in turn has to be permanently affixed to the wall or floor... like, poured concrete over the base level secured. ATMs are more mobile.

    Not surprisingly, a large number of the handguns possessed illegally here came from the US (where they often are discovered to have been used criminally there, too).
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    Right...so the solution is not to take guns from law abiding citizens, lest only criminals be left with them.
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    I assume you're saying you don't own a gun by choice. Fine. Neither do I. Why is that funny? Where are you located? Criminals will get guns if they want them, no matter where they are.
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    No, the solution is to stop selling bullets so all the guns are useless.
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    But you prove the point that criminals will kill, shoot, stab with whatever they're able to. You guys have a knifing epidemic, a muslim problem, etc. Are you going to ban knives too?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089
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    No, they don't.

    That's the thing, this is a complete myth, much like "they'll just kill people by other means".

    The US murder rates are the exception rather than the norm in the developed world and it's no coincidence that the other glaring distinction is a permissive gun culture.
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    Something tells me industrious criminals will make their own.
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    Point of order, our "knifing epidemic" has still to bring our most dangerous areas in line with the national average for the US, or in most cases even with the safest areas.

    It's bad by our standards but like a haven of stability by yours.
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    Some might. But then again such people could also make guns.

    The majority though are idiots and opportunists.
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    you realize loading your own rounds is incredibly easy, right? So unless we ban lead, gunpowder, brass, etc. or stop smugglers from bringing these things into our country ammo will still be available. Any more bright ideas?
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    Okay, how are you going to get the knives?
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    Spot is okay, at least not unhinged like so many here and willing to at least talk.
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  26. spot261

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    Knives are commonly available and always will be in any society because they are such basic and necessary tools. They are, however, fairly ineffective for killing people in any significant numbers by comparison and guns aren't required for the basic functions of life such as cooking and eating.

    There were claims that we would be seeing an epidemic of mass killings in Europe using vehicles but the trend was brief indeed and didn't warrant the "cars are just as dangerous as guns" argument one iota, especially as cars (much like knives) are something society relies upon to function.

    Just to give you some perspective on the knife epidemic, we've seen the government have a COBRA meeting (which is the equivalent of a meeting of the Joint Chiefs) over a localised murder rate in London City Centre which would still make it one of the safest places to live in the US.

    That should tell you a lot both about the difference in background levels of serious violence and how misplaced any argument based on equivalence with knives is.
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  27. spot261

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    For better or for worse guns are an issue I'm sometimes less diplomatic than I could be and not being an American is actually part of that. It's frustrating sitting outside and seeing a perfectly solvable problem, one which has already got an tried and tested solution, being treated as a dilemma whilst lives are being lost in a country where I have lots of loved ones.

    Of course the ammunition restrictions wouldn't be a solution in and o themselves, but they would reduce the accessibility to the means to do harm, banning sales of guns but leaving the legal ones in play would alter the balance of power. You have illegal guns being seized daily, take away the root source and you have natural wastage both in numbers and effectiveness whilst the legal ones remain in play.

    Over time that means a reduction in gun violence and thus a reduction in the perception that guns are needed for self defence. That lowers the threshold for extreme violence and thus what would be murders become assaults. Over time there's every reason to expect the culture which fetishises guns to fade much as it has done time and again around the developed world. This isn't merely my theory, it's an approach which has consistently been effective.
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    "It's frustrating sitting outside and seeing a perfectly solvable problem, one which has already got an tried and tested solution, being treated as a dilemma whilst lives are being lost in a country where I have lots of loved ones." - spot 261

    well spot I have lots of loved ones here too, but because I can fucking do basic math I don't get my knickers in a twist over guns. :drama: Yes, math! Unless your loved ones in the US live in straight-up housing projects "straight outta Compton" hoods or are involved in criminal activity on a regular basis the odds of them getting shot are slim-to-none. Smart money says at the end of their long productive lives they will meet their maker from the normal shit...like heart attacks and whatnot - "natural causes" if you will. Yes lives are being lost....but what percentage of those lives are lost to gunfire? Do you realize that you have "preventable" deaths in your country too? Many can be avoided through easy solutions - solutions that don't involve taking away the rights of others. Just a suggestion, all the needless stress over guns might fuck up your mental & physical health.
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    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    We keep doing this.

    Yet again, your murder rate is sky high regardless of the method used. Why is that?

    Is it a coincidence that criminals are more likely to use lethal force in a setting where lethal weapons are prevalent and seen as normal?
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    despite our high murder rate the odds of any one person actually getting murdered (depending on your lifestyle for the most part) are still very low. In other words if only 1 percent of the US population will commit murder in their lifetimes (regardless of method used) does that warrant denying the 99 percent of those who will never commit murder (regardless of method used) the right to own a gun?

    Do you have alcoholic drunk drivers killing people in the UK? Of course you do. Is it a coincidence that alcoholics are more likely to drive drunk where booze is prevalent and seen as normal?
    What do you expect alcoholics to do? You won't ban cars so why not ban booze? It works in Saudi Arabia ergo it will certainly work in your country too!
    But no, you let your booze fetish overrule your respect for human life - damn that's some sad shit right there. Maybe some day you Brits will get your shit together. Thoughts & prayers!