Mueller Investigation

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  1. Tuttle

    Tuttle Khaaaaaaaaaaann !!!

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    Geez louise.

    Senior citizen abuse?
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    Did one of @oldfella1962 's nurses mix up his meds with the laxatives again?
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Didn't go well, I take it? :diacanu:

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  4. Tuttle

    Tuttle Khaaaaaaaaaaann !!!

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    That could be the next "it's an eleven!"

    Mueller investigation was a sham because its leader Mueller was incapacitated and enfeebled. This thread needs something to give it legs.

    All the past 11s have died without even a whimper (US Southern District case v. Trump, Trump emoluments case, Trump broke regs to gain security clearances for family, conspired with Deutsche Bank on something), several in just the past few weeks.
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    You know it was really bad. Just admit it. On the bright side you'll soon be free of the oppressive EU. At least that's something.
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  6. Quest

    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    Mueller performed exactly how he set out to perform: he stuck to the report and was the least telegenic he could possibly appear. The last thing he wanted was to give either side a viral moment of political theater. There was no reason to expect anything different. Personal attacks and ageism are way out of bounds.
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  7. Tuttle

    Tuttle Khaaaaaaaaaaann !!!

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    BREAKING: Special Counsel Mueller Unable To Completely Exonerate Santa Clause Of Assassinating Ronald Reagan.

    Right, because after over 2 years of ridiculous attacks on the President of US claiming without any *material* evidence that he was a Russian spy - it's now out of bounds to impugn the credibility of the chief investigator following his testimony about the investigation. Maybe he really *is* a Republican after all. Or is that joke too offensive as well?
  8. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Has Trump avoided the limelight or behaved like a consumate professional?
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    Tuttle Khaaaaaaaaaaann !!!

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    Prior to being elected Trump often behaved like a piece of crap. And his record since isn't that stellar either, with tweets like "horseface."

    And I hear frogs can't swallow with their eyes open. So what? What's that got to do with Mueller's credibility or the shit show that went on in DC today?
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    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    Mueller never attacked the President or claimed he was a Russian spy. :shrug: As far as that goes, rhetorical attacks against the President by political opponents are not exactly without precedent in American history.
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    So he was a tool of the Democrats. Does that lessen the spectacle of this garbage that was run 24/7:
    BREAKING: Special Counsel Mueller Unable To Completely Exonerate Trump Of Collusion?

    When, under the applicable law, nobody can *ever* be exonerated of anything.

    Whether Mueller was complicit in the hoax, or a tool, is actually irrelevant to the criticism I made. It was a fraud on the US spread by the mass media, and Mueller gave them the hoax soundbite to run with. Inept? Unwitting dupe? Or co-operative conspirator in the fraud on the public? How do you see it?
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  12. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    I've no idea what went on in DC today, must hold my hands up. Posting here has been a welcome distraction from the shit show in London.
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    What I want to know is why Donald Trump Jr isn't in prison:


    That dude is a legit traitor to his country and we literally have the receipts
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  14. Quest

    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    According to the Mueller Report, because it would have been very difficult to prove he was aware he was doing something illegal, and almost impossible to quantify the value of the "dirt" he expected to receive.
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  15. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf Hamachi is a fish best served cold

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    Essentially, Don Jr. is too fucking stupid to have the requisite mental state required for that crime.
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  16. Quest

    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    I must confess I was surprised to learn that sometimes ignorance of the law is a valid excuse.
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  17. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I know. Right? :shrug:
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  18. K.

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    Plainly untrue. Would you like to try again?
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  19. Zombie

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    Everywhere Dems were :yeehaw: over that answer.

    ONE HOUR LATER:



    :rotfl:

    Today has been a disaster for the Democrats.
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  20. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  21. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf Hamachi is a fish best served cold

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    Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle.

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  22. Tererun

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    Impeachment is no longer an option, but the dems got what they could out of Mueller today.

    1. A direct denial that the report exonerated him in no uncertain terms from the person trump claimed exonerated him.
    2. A statement that charging trump with a crime was never on the table because trump was a sitting president and not because of any evidence.
    3. A listing of evidence obtained that corresponds with the definition of obstruction of justice.

    This was all they were going to get considering Mueller is no longer gathering evidence.

    You add to that the reality the Mueller report has convicted a number of trump's people for the crimes of collusion, along with getting confessions from a number of them, and you have the investigation yielding some impressive results on everyone but the president who Mueller said was immune from it. The dems have to turn their story onto what did happen instead of allowing it to be shown as a defeat. It did show the trump campaign working with and employing Russian agents. It did show communication with the trump campaign and his people with Russia against America. Start to list the convictions he got along with the criminals in the trump administration and let people draw their own conclusions.

    This idea the trump people walked away from this as exonerated is a blatant lie by you and the trumpets. The dems have got to start showing that this was not a waste of time by showing what Mueller did do, which is damning. You show trump as a criminal dancing around the law while his fall guys are all rotting in jail on real convictions. Then you tell the people they can get justice by voting trump out. You also lay the failure to impeach directly on Mitch and his senators, and portray them as part of the Russian conspiracy to bring America down. That is where the dems like Pelosi might drop the ball and let him get away with it.
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  23. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    How do you figure that? :wtf:
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    It's over and we all know it. Don't go away mad. Just go away.
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  25. The Night Funky

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    Remember when we said that after the first Benghazi investigation? How'd that work out?
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  26. Quest

    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    Nothing is over. Russia is scheming up ways to interfere with the 2020 election right now.
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  27. Tererun

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    Read up on the convictions so far.

    https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

    That is certainly a big list of corruption, crimes, and collusion.
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  28. Tererun

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    The Mueller investigation has been over for a while. According to him today when trump is no longer president they can indict on the obstruction charges. That is still over trump's head and that means it is not over.
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  29. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Okay. specifically, which people did the report "convict" of collusion?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Nixon was a fool, but he at least knew when the game was up. Der Drumpfenfuhrer? Take Nixon's IQ and subtract 50 points.
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