Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tuckerfan, May 3, 2019.
But now they're spreading measles.
At least the plague only got them, and not any real people.
Do the Scientologists have anti vaccer beliefs or is it simply a coincidence?
Could the U.S. Navy please send a Virginia-Class Submarine to put that cruise ship at the bottom of the ocean?
I wonder who will get those 100 doses? Certainly not those who don’t carry enough clout or cash.
They have a cruise ship? Impressive
Wonder how much gay sex happens on that vessel
A Los Angeles could do the job. As could an Ohio as they have torpedoes too.
They don't believe in shrinks, or any kind of psychiatric medication.
Anti-vax is a quick hop, skip, and a jump from there.
They also think that Scientology gives them superpowers and they often use Scientology approved methods for treating various medical conditions (with little success). See this infamous Tom Cruise video where he talks about some of this shit.
Kind of like Christian Scientists?
Did David Miscavige's wife (or her body) ever turn up?
A little more extreme. I've never heard of Christian Scientists running forced labor camps, for example.
No. And even the ex-Scientologists who are doing everything they can to expose the cult disturbingly think that she's still alive. (Miscavige has no doubt had her murdered, and they either dumped her body in the desert or buried her at sea.)
Clearly someone skipped ahead in reading up on OT levels and needs a trip to ethics. LRH warned of things like this if you read his discoveries before being clear (AKA fully brainwashed and most likely broke and separated from friends and family.) Too bad he was not there to throw people off the boat like in the old days of the sea org.
She is probably a body thetan by now.
I thought I remembered that somewhere along the line Scientology was related in some way to the infamous addiction treatment group (later a church) called "Synanon".
I could be mistaken though.
actually, the scientology equal of AA and NA is alcanon and narcanon. They are based on the same system of indoctrinating weak minded addicts into religion. They use scientology methods to try and overcome addiction. I would say they are probably better than AA and NA simply because scientology uses lie/response detector in their audits and are probably better at rooting out slip ups.
I would not say that one person coming down with the measles represents a scientological belief. If it were a scientology belief that vaccines were a problem the ship would have a number of cases being a confines space with lots of ways to infect those who are not inoculated against it.
Also, from a scientology perspective there is no reason to be opposed to acquired immunity. From what I know of scientology it would recognize the body becomes immune to certain things through contact with them. It would simply be tech to expose the body to a more inert form of the virus to trigger the body to produce immunity. They may fall victim to some of the lies about other problems with the vaccines, but a scientologist would be encouraged to do research into how things work which would most likely lead them to an understanding of vaccines and what they do. So it would be mostly individualistic that a person would be afraid of taking a vaccine.
Unlike psych drugs which don't give you acquired immunity or even a "cure" for mental problems a vaccine does work that way. There would be a differentiation in the minds of most scientologists. LRH did not condemn the science and medical communities. He was very specific in condemning the psychology community. That said some higher more secretive areas of the church itself may create fears of medical doctors more because they would be the ones who could see signs of physical abuses and malnutrition which effect those kept prisoner by the cult itself. Still, if you are not a member of the sea org or are confined to a cult headquarters as most scientologists are not, that would not be a huge problem.
Truthfully? Not at all among the lower ranks. Being gay is a sign of deviant and unwanted behavior in Scientology. If you're discovered to be gay, they will audit the fuck out of you until you break down in a puddle of your own piss. That being said, the higher ups who sexually assault women, and children, would probably have no problems with engaging in gay sex, though if you tell anyone no one will believe it because an OT VIII (Operating Thetan Level 8, which is so high up the bridge you're technically a god) is physically incapable of engaging in such an act because of how virtuous and perfect they are. The lower ranking Scientologist is clearly lying, and will have the fuck audited out of them until they die of malnutrition.
If you contract the measles as a Scientologist, it is still your fault. You did something wrong to cause the sickness to gain entry. I have no doubt treatments will be withheld for those deemed less than worthy.
It is a bit conflicting, yes. They do believe that sort of thing. They don't fully deny the effects of medicine. Also, you are not fully capable of being that level of perfection pre-clear and on the low end of the OT scale where most everyone not fully under the influence of the religion falls. Things may have changed in the past decade or so given the larger influence of cult behavior and the need to restrict contact with the outside world, but scientologists do not fully rely on mystical healing at lower levels.
In the end I would say that the heads of the religion are well aware of the failing of scientology to make you invincible. Therefor if you are going to have the servants working for you, and you are all close together it is a good idea to keep the colony inoculated. Look at what is happening among the other religious groups where they live and work closely with each other and don't get vaccinated. The diseases are hitting segregated Jewish and Christian communities very hard when not vaccinated. We would be hearing the same problems coming from the scientology heavy townships also.
I do not think the scientology church has spoken against it and they probably encourage vaccinations among those who are going to enter into the cultish operations because you have entering hectors for the disease because scienos do interact with the general population in larger numbers than most segregated communities. I could be wrong and perhaps these diseases are running rampant in areas we cannot see, but I think their leadership is much more aware of things like disease spreading and the dangers of it.
Not to mention given their views on how interaction with different people can spread spiritual problems like a disease it would make sense to have a tech to rid ones self of the risk of that disease. Taking the vaccine would be tech.
I'm more surprised that they had access to this ship since the last I heard it was tied up in dry dock for non-payment because the renovation they were having done revealed the ship was full of asbestos and they wouldn't pay up to have it removed.
Maybe tom cruise melted all the asbestos away with his super awesome OT powers. I would laugh at the folly of scientology here if it was not for the Johnson and Johnson company allowing their baby powder to have asbestos in it and determining the solution was to use less accurate testing so the asbestos does not show up. It is hard to feel morally superior when you are getting poisoned in the same way for the same reason.
See Diacanu's post.
Being anti psych drugs is a gateway to being anti-everything else.
Plus, LA and the OC is ground zero for a bunch of non scientologist anti Vax fuckers as it is. I'm calling the VA as it is on Monday to get my immunization checked since I was born in '86.
Awwwww, just a baby!!!
Same. Since I was born in 80, no one is quite sure whether or not my shot covered everything it needed, as there is no indicator of the manufacturer on the record, so I'm just going to get another Measles vaccine.
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