One of Our Aircraft Carriers is Burning

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  1. shootER

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    Probably not the best ship motto to have now, considering the circumstances. :(
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    Picard would probably know what to say in this situation. Captain Picard, not old fart Picard.
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    No.

    It's still classified as an LHD. The reporter probably regugitated some misinformation. :shrug:
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    But hey, so far no one has died from this unlike the recent Navy disasters, so that's good.

    But that ship is toast if that fire hasn't already been put out.
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    Come on. Angled deck means offset...not ski ramp. I'm not sure how many countries besides us have carriers that can handle anything other than STOL/VTOL planes. France is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
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    Yes, I know. That was the point of my comment.
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    India and China.
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    Don't they both have STOBAR carriers?
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    I guess the US has FUBAR carriers.

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    You said "angled deck."

    The INS Vikramaditya, INS Viraat, INS Vishal, and INS Vikrant along with PLAN Shandong and PLAN Liaoning all have angled decks.
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    Okay, point taken, but a Wasp class seems pretty much in the same class as an Aircraft Carrier as all of those.
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    Similar, but not the same, is what I'd argue. These gator navy ships have no arresting mechanism, and thus can't operate anything like the Mig-29K or Su-33 (and Chinese clone). The AV-8 series pales in comparison to those planes putting them at a catastrophic disadvantage in a peer on peer engagement. The F-35 will cover "some" of that gap. But, even it can't hold a candle to its superiors in range, speed, or payload.

    There's a reason the "Standard" complement for these ships has helicopters and tilt-rotors making up 23 of the ship's 29 aircraft.
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    We need nuke escort carrier named after spacetkey, elwood and matthunter!
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    We don't build escort carriers any more. Haven't for many decades now. That role is most closely matched these days by Aegis-equipped ships.
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    uncle albert and jenee need escort carrier names.
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    IIRC, the number of soldiers/sailors/airmen/space cadets are capped by law. Every soldier serving beans is another potential rifleman. The military is struggling to meet their recruiting goals and they're stretched very thin as it is.
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    Oh, apparently, it's still on fire.
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    The way the Navy is run, I'm surprised there aren't more sailors lighting ships on fire :borg:
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