Playstation (PS1) Classic Console in December!

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  1. Zor Prime

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    This news is a couple days old, so you may have heard already... but Sony wants some of that sweet, easy money and is following Nintendo with their own plug and play, classic mini console.

    https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/19/17877898/playstation-classic-release-date-price-ps1-games

    The PS1 Classic will be 100 dollars and it will come with 2 original PS1 controllers (no analog sticks) and 20 games.

    So far they have announced 5 of the 20 games:
    • Final Fantasy VII
    • Tekken 3
    • Ridge Racer Type 4
    • Jumping Flash
    • Wild Arms
    I'm sure more announcements will be coming soon. Anyone interested? I never had a PS1 growing up so I don't have any nostalgia for the console but some of these games are definitely worth the price they are asking. And you don't have to mess around with a bunch of CDs... its all pre-loaded, similar to the NES and SNES Classics.

    I'm going to speculate on what the other 15 games might be. What do you guys think? Worth buying? I'm emulating all those games now so I won't purchase this but for most everybody else I think this is a steal and is probably going to sell millions and millions of units. Pre-orders are already through the roof.
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    Other possibilities.

    Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night - This has to be included. Not only is it one of the best games for the system, it is one of the best games of all time and is an iconic classic. They are insane if they don't include this title.

    Metal Gear Solid - Same as above. And both games were made by Konami, so if we get one I see no reason why we shouldn't get the other. Another legendary game.

    Resident Evil 1 or 2 - I'm 100% certain that a Resident Evil game will be on the system. But I can't decide if it will be the first game or the second game. They are both fantastic titles and they are both classics. But they've also both been re-released a few times since they originally came out. Resident Evil 1 has been remastered and is widely available and the Resident Evil 2 remaster is coming out one month after the PS1 Classic. So I'm not sure which of these will make the cut.

    Twisted Metal: World Tour - another PS1 classic. Lots of fun and pretty unique, definitely not like any other racer on the system.

    Crash Team Racing - Even though the Crash Bandicoot games are all PS1 classics, the entire trilogy was just recently remastered and re-released for modern day systems. So I'm not sure if there is any point including the originals on this system. But they could throw Crash Team Racing in there... this was the Bandicoot's answer to Super Mario Kart. Not as good as Mario Kart but pretty close!

    Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 - Another classic. And one of the highest ranked games on the system. I'm pretty sure this will be included. I can't think of any reason not to include it. Although I'm not sure if music licensing might be an issue?

    Gran Turismo 2 - On a similar note, this is the highest ranked racing game for the system and one of Sony's crown jewel franchises. But I wonder if the licensing for all the different cars will make this inclusion more complicated? Not too sure about this one.

    Colony Wars - Classic flight sim in the vein of the X-Wing/TIE Fighter series and the Wing Commander series. I think this will definitely be on there. Also highly ranked.

    Soul Blade - The precursor to the Soul Calibur series. Namco's Tekken is already confirmed for the system so why not also their weapon based fighting game. Unless they just want to limit how many games per genre they include. 20 games really isn't all that much considering the PS1 library consists of thousands of titles!

    Tomb Raider - Another iconic gaming series that started on the PS1. Has to be included. This or one of the sequels, but I think the original is probably the one people remember the most.

    PaRappa The Rapper - Just to throw something different in there. I don't know if this game has aged very well but it was the precursor to all the other rhythm based games we see today. Its quirky and unique so I think it will be included.

    Medal Of Honor - Haven't included any first person shooters yet so why not this one. Another highly regarded classic.

    Rayman 1 or 2 - I think we will see one of these two games but I'm not sure which one. Rayman 1 was a 2d platformer and Rayman 2 was 3d platformer. I think the sprite based 2d games of that generation have aged better than the clunky looking 3d platformers of that era. So I am leaning towards the first game. However Rayman 2 was ranked much higher. Not sure about this one.

    Wipeout XL - Another classic racer for the PS1. We might have too many racers on this list but this one's futuristic setting is pretty unique and its hard to see them excluding such an iconic game. Again, 20 games is really just scratching the surface.

    So thats 14 of the possible 15 games. Lots of possibilities for the last game. I don't think it will be another racer or RPG or fighter since those genres are represented. And I don't think we will get any sports games like Madden, NBA, FIFA, NHL etc. Maybe a SHMUP like Einhander or R-Type Delta?
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  3. GhostEcho

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    The PS1 games I'd love to see would be Parasite Eve, Vigilante 8, and Armored Core.
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    $100 for only 20 games? I'll pass.
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    Tomb raider, for sure. I could see crash being on there too even tho it was recently remastered.
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    Tomba!, Incredible Crisis, Parasite Eve, Armored Core, Battle Arena Toshinden, Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, Cooooooooool Boarders, Ghost in the Shell, Darkstalkers, Dragon Ball GT Final Bout, Grandia, Lunar:Silver Star Story complete, Macross DYRL, shit ton of Mega Man games, Metal GEEEEEAR, the late in life gundam fighting games, FF8, Fuck! the PS1 has a great library.
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    This.
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    I get that. Considering how big the PS1 catalog is, 20 games is a drop in the bucket.

    But it still comes out to about 5 dollars per game. And if you wanted to buy one of these games individually and play them on your old PS1 or Ps2 you’d problably be paying a lot more for a 20 year old preowned game that may or may not have scratched discs.

    On EBay I’ve seen Final Fantasy 7 alone going for 40-100 dollars depending on the condition of the game.

    But yeah I think this is only worth getting if you really want to play these specific games and have no other way of playing them.
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    I have a copy of Macross. Very cool set, especially if you are a big fan of Robotech/Macross. It’s not the best shooter in the world but it’s cool how they integrate the gameplay into the movie’s storyline.
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  10. Amaris

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    The PS1 does have a lot of great titles, I use an emulator also, so won't likely be getting these games, though I did have many of them two decades ago. The price point for a system with 20 games is too high unless there's an option to add more games via USB or SD expansion.

    I mean, for $100 I can build a RetroPie and install thousands of NES, SNES, and PS1 titles (my favorite systems), and use it as a console with controllers and everything. Why drop that kind of money for a gated system that won't let you expand your collection? Curated is fine, but the content is always subjective to the whims of the company's notion of what is popular means it will be best. There are games that were never popular but were a lot of fun to play.
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    Got a lot of that mindset back in the mid 90's-2000's anime community, back when official releases were actually coming stateside. I've always championed supporting official releases. I'm hoping this sells well and encourages Sony to adapt it's PS1 library to the PS4.
  12. Amaris

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    Maybe, but if they're going to half ass it and charge $100 for the privilege, I'm not investing my time or money into it. The reason this stuff happens is because people are willing to pay 200% for a 50% effort.
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    Can you expound on this RetroPie? So it's a console with controllers that you can download games onto from any old platform?
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    Yep. You can buy a Raspberry Pi from Amazon for about $100, and it comes with two controllers, and an SD card preloaded with a program called "RetroPie," which is a game emulator that emulates everything from the Atari 2600 to the Playstation, and a few more I can't think of off hand. Then you just take the SD card, load your favorite game ROMS on it (you can still get them most Rom sites, though it's getting harder these days), and play them on your TV.

    https://www.amazon.com/V-Kits-Raspb...=UTF8&qid=1537906455&sr=8-4&keywords=Retropie
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    The real sticking point is the costs for 20 games.

    These are games from the mid-90's to early 2000's. The hardware isn't worth $100. You don't even get dual shock controllers.

    Now if they had made it so you could put a SD card and add games to the system even if only official games from Sony than it would be worth it. You could sell batches of games for a couple bucks. Of course knowing how Sony has always had a bug up it's ass about DRM it probably didn't want people jailbreaking such a thing and that's why you have no SD card port. People will probably still hack it on day one as Sony never learns. :lol:
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  16. Amaris

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    It's funny as hell to watch some company like Sony tout their unbreakable DRM only to have it broken a few days after its release, and yet they never learn.
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    You mean like their billion dollar DRM which could be "hacked" with a Sharpie?
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  18. Amaris

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    That would be one, yes. I despise DRM anyway. All it does is make it damned near impossible for people who bought the game to actually play the game.
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  19. Zor Prime

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    The final list of games for the PS1 Classic:

    Battle Arena Toshinden
    Cool Boarders 2
    Destruction Derby
    Final Fantasy VII
    Grand Theft Auto
    Intelligent Qube
    Jumping Flash
    Metal Gear Solid
    Mr. Driller
    Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
    Rayman
    Resident Evil: Director's Cut
    Revelations: Persona
    Ridge Racer Type 4
    Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
    Syphon Filter
    Tekken 3
    Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
    Twisted Metal
    Wild Arms



    Some of the selections are underwhelming. And some of the omissions are just surprising. No Wipeout? No Tomb Raider?

    Only 4 of my 14 guesses were right. I don't think any of these are bad games but for a console with so many classic games, 20 really isn't enough.
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    I would LOVE to play a PS 4 re-master of MGS.

    But this prospect is thoroughly "meh"
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    Yeah, that's kind of an underwhelming list.
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  22. Zor Prime

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    Some reviewers of the product are saying the whole thing is a pretty lazy effort.

    Sony isn’t even using their own emulator for the games... they are using the same open source emulator that people have been using for years on their own PCs and raspberry pi’s. Except with less options and only one save state per game.

    In other news, Nintendo has stated that they are not currently planning an N64 Classic. That’s crazy... they are just leaving money on the table. That would be such an easy sell. Nintendo makes some really bizarre business decisions sometimes. Must drive their investors crazy.
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    wing commander 3 and 4 for ps/