Discussion in 'The Help Desk' started by Bickendan, Dec 11, 2016.
Wait, are you threatening to leave?
At least, you'll still be here posting. That's all that really matters.
Precisely this. The two permabans that we have had in the Horsemen era were a response to efforts to cause board-wide damage, not plain vanilla trolling. There is likely never going to be a written rule to address such things, because the kind of people who want to take that path are good at finding ways to do it within the rules.
As for Ramen, part of why he was only given a temporary ban is because we had some idea that a rule could actually address his behavior. And part of it was nostalgia for the fact that he was a founding member. The rule is there, now, so we'll see how that goes.
No one is buying the idea that gturner was some kind of big threat to the board. Stop trying to sell that shit already.
Really? Based on what?
Based on the fact that I and several others support the very idea that you claim no-one supports.
That gturner represented a threat to the board? You actually buy that?
Well, you can turn anything silly with hyperbole, but he did manage to put a stop to most serious political debates, and those are a major part of WF.
No he didn't.
An eloquent argument, and yet I remain unconvinced.
Can you point out three threads during his active time that sustained serious debate? I've already pointed out six from the week after he left earlier in this thread.
And yet, and yet ....
If he did, it was only in the same sense that Dayton has done so. Which is to say that it is entirely on the people who responded to him like a bunch of morons and interrupted said debates instead of simply ignoring him and continuing the debate if that's what they really wanted. I'd also point out that wild topic changes have been a thing at Wordforge since long before gturner ever joined, so you can hardly us that as a reason to label him as a threat to the board. I'd also point out that he actually did have some good points from time to time, which were simply ignored because of who they were coming from, and as others have pointed out, he did make plenty of contributions to the board outside of the RR.
Nope. GT is gone, Dayton remains, and yet debate has returned.
I see no "return" of debate that wasn't there before, even if it was in between the spam.
I do. I've listed several threads as examples; my question stands whether anyone can list several threads from GT's most active times that compare.
"Debate." I'd also note just recently, people have complained about how people taking Dayton's bait derailed a discussion. I'd also point out that you completely failed to address the point about how such derailments have actually been the norm in Wordforge since before gturner joined.
Not "people." Just Anc.
And looking back on it, there should've been more effort to curtail that shit too.
Why? There are other boards around for serious political discussion if that's what you really want. I was actually a member of one for a while, but the problem was it was pretty boring.
Curtail Dayton and there's little reason to come here anymore. Where else can you get that sort of entertainment for free?
So... A new owner but GTurner still remains banned despite never breaking any rule? The more things change the more they remain the same.
Well, John hasn't posted here since you left, so there's one less voice calling you for the bigot you are.
You should write a letter.
It's almost as if @Anna banning @gturner and all owners letting him stay banned wasn't a personal vendetta on @gul's part after all!
I've even said in this thread that gul was asleep when I made the decision. But no, gul got all the credit, because patriarchy
So where is @John hiding? The safe confines of TNZ or did he get a huggy dog for his feelings?
I would join in but we already know that rule is selectively enforced. Just read all the insults people like John got away with.
Google starscapebbs. Seriously.
Separate names with a comma.