Should there be a RR thread about the winter storm/Texas power infrastructure?

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  1. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    It is a great way to seem like you are doing someone a favor when you are setting them up to fail.

    Another big advantage is having family members with good credit that can cosign a loan for you. The first car I bought myself my dad let them do all the paperwork for the payments and the loan, then he came down and had them do it with him as a cosigner. The amount of interest I saved was fucking insane. That was the same thing his father did for him when he got his first mortgage. That money that you save, and the reality that your parents would make a payment if you were short which protects you from losing the investment is huge for a family to continue being able to maintain or move up in wealth all around. The fact that black people have been charged more on interest just because of their color, and the other problems that occur from prejudice effecting how parents can assist their children in acquiring family wealth and savings are hugely contributory to the problems facing their community wealth and well being. before anyone goes there I am fully blaming prejudice and racism because it incentivises black families to split up with their impoverished members rather than join up for more powerful communities of wealth.
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  2. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I jumped from NY even though I really loved parts of it. It is a brand name that is just not worth it, and the idea that it is a open minded liberal area is overblown. I actually recommend people move to the southeast and even texass. But they have to move with the idea that they have to vote out the red trash. You have to fix the gerrymandering or else your input as the tax base for the state is going to be eaten up by the red trumpian losers. Without cities like Atlanta GA would be a broke ass MS. Georgians should realize the reasons they have decent things is they have blue cities. the same goes for texass. The reason texass is not a huge MS is because of the huge cities that fund it. It is the blue members that give them their school funding and importance. It is because industry has moved to the rural uneducated area that things have gotten good for them.
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  3. tafkats

    tafkats That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo! Moderator

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    And intentionally so: Predatory lenders were especially aggressive in targeting majority-nonwhite neighborhoods, and before anyone tries to play the "well, you're less likely to get a conventional loan if you're low-income/have a low credit score" card, nonwhite consumers were far more likely to end up with a predatory loan even after all standard risk factors are controlled for.

    https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w22004/w22004.pdf
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    Shirogayne 1/06 Was An Inside Job Formerly Important

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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Excuse me but I believe you'll find that this is another success story for capitalism.
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  6. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    @Paladin will be along shortly to tell us how this is the best of all possible worlds.
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  7. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    Since you seem to agree that gerrymandering and voter suppression are at work in Texas, it's really a question that can't fully be answered.

    If those things were absent, would we be looking at Senator Beto O'Rourke rather than Senator Ted Cruz? Here's the argument for yes: Cruz is a deeply unpopular person who was outfundraised by O'Rourke greatly. O'Rourke came within 215,000 votes or so of beating Cruz. It is a reasonable hypothesis that in a state as large as Texas that voter suppression in its various forms prevented a net of that many Democrats from voting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas

    In the recent election, Trump did pretty well. winning Texas by about 630,000. But that was against a backdrop where Texas had relatively strict rules on mail-in voting. If Texas had allowed the average level rules on it, it would have likely driven up Democratic votes. Enough to erase that margin? There's obviously no way of knowing, but it is a reasonable hypothesis.
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  8. Tuckerfan

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    Another lawsuit filed.
    More at the link.
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    Have we learned the lesson yet?

    The private sector has no business delivering critical infrastructure needs for society.

    Why?

    Because Texas, that's why.
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    AlphaMan The North Remembers...

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    I'm serious. What's the point? Texas customers paid $28 Billion more in utility costs since 2004. I thought deregulation was to provide CHEAPER utility cost? If market deregulation makes sense, then I'm all for it, but it seems to me that many GOP voters have this sort of unexamined dogmatic adherence to the idea of deregulation.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I can see Paladin rubbing his hands like Mr. Burns and saying "excellent!"
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  13. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon outta my way Administrator Formerly Important

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    I’m not sure it is fair to compare Texas to the rest of the country. How much of that $28 BILLION fucked out of consumers was just due to Texas not having any energy resources and having to buy from other states? I’m sure that’s the largest factor and only a tiny fraction is exploitative profits.
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    Dogmatic is right.

    Capitalism is the unofficial religion of America, only slightly ahead of the prom night dumpster bastardization that passes for Christianity.
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  15. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Capitalism and Christian White Nationalism.

    You know, like Jesus intended.
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    Tell us how you really feel.
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  18. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Which amounts to the same thing if she can't pay it.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    If talking about accountability means it is a regulatory failing, does it follow that the free market abrogates all responsibilities for companies responsible for essential services?
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  20. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    I don't think that's a good model for solar energy on Earth.

    Tucker Carlson is an idiot blaming renewable energy on the Texas crisis, but solar energy collection in space has no bearing on the matter. We might want to farm solar in space and beam it down. In Space (at the right points) it never gets dark or stormy. ('cept for those solar storms).

    The major power losses were due to natural gas fired generating stations that went offline due to gas pipeline controls not being winterized and a nucular plant that went offline because its sensors were sissies.
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    It's like this all over again. (SFW, despite what the URL might make you think.)
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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