so what are "the optics" in this situation? Politician seen with ANTIFA

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  1. oldfella1962

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    and according to the article she was dressed in "all block" which is either a new color, or wearing square cardboard boxes. No jokes about needing a box to cover her face either kids! :nono: That would be crude, and sophomoric. IMO no big deal if all ANTIFA did was "hurl expletives" :dayton: at cops. Find a cop who hasn't been cursed at, even in squeaky clean polite Minnesota. :lol: Hurling expletives at random people though? Not cool, not cool at all.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...ve-caught-at-trump-rally-with-antifa-n2554578

    "4:00 mins into the below video Rep. Gomez dressed in all block is seen participating in intimidating people as they leave the rally, clad in all black." - :unsure:
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    Yet when point out that dems have seriously gone off the deep end you get fantasy reps and denials from the usual reality impared suspects. Dems need to move back to the center or they will lose again.
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    Nice source, is there a reliable one you could quote, or is it just fake news?
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  4. spot261

    spot261 George "The Animal" Steele tribute act

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    Big picture: Politics are getting more polarised. Put a far right POTUS in office and expect the left to swing further left, it was always thus and should have been obvious.

    Extremist politics lead to violence, always have, always will.
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    It is not like Antifa is the good people in the white nationalist Nazi party who run down innocent protesters that @oldfella1962 and his conservative racist news sources love. They are evil and throw milkshakes.
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    Here's where it gets more fun.....

    There are rumors that Ilhan Omar and the guy she's cheating with were at the protests with there faces covered up. (until he pulls his down. There is video but it's not 100% clear)


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    Dems have moved "to the centre" so many times that "the centre" in American politics would be considered right-wing in any other Western nation, and Republicans still demonize them are dangerous communists.

    Fuck moving to the centre. :shrug:
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    This. Equating "liberals" and "communists" in the same sentence is both hilarious and depressing. Liberals are, in general, center left, and support the capitalist structure.
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    Obamacare was an old Republican proposal, now it's tantamount to communism. Carbon taxes were originally a minimally invasive right-wing solution to climate change, now they're a "leftist cash grab." :sigh:
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    Everything Bernie Sanders is proposing, for example, is similar to what FDR proposed more than 70 years ago (you know, during the so-called Golden Age), and what the U.S. was doing to combat the causes and effects of the Great Depression. Democratic Socialism is more leftward, but it's still light years away from communism. It is certainly better than laissez-faire capitalism (when done right), but for most leftists such as myself, it's still nowhere near what we actually need. Anyone who equates liberalism with communism is ignorant. Plain and simple.
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    Exactly.

    You are not a liberal. Neither are most of the leftists on this board.
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    Don't you love it how there are good and bad example of socialism, but rightforge zooms right in on the bad ones, but there are NO good examples of right-wing economics that don't butt-fuck the working class with a catcus, and they don't bat an eyelash of shame?
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    Your opinion would matter if you didn't have a steady unbroken record of being an absolute drool splashing idiot.
    But you do.
    So it doesn't.

    Only difference between you and Dayton was when Dayton was confused, he wore that shit on his sleeve.
    You hide it behind a mask of pseudo-certainty.
    Well, "hide", isn't the right word when the mask is clear.
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    If I were a politician, I’d distance myself from Antifa, especially if they’re chanting blue lives don’t matter.
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    Blue lives are an artificial construct. You can stop being a blue life any moment you choose. A black life has no choice, and can't simply stop being a black life. So in truth, blue lives don't exist outside of a system that uses those blue lives to oppress black lives. In that specific circumstance, blue lives don't matter.
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    Fuck Antifa. Their whole raison d'etre is violence...and it's sissy slap fighting violence at that.
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    Their whole raison d'etre is opposing fascists, guy. It's right there in the name.

    If they have to get a little handsy in that opposition because the authorities refuse to take action, then it is what it is. Desperate times and whatnot. :shrug:
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    Bullshit. They show up to start a ruckus and that's it. When have they ever shown up to a counter protest and not got handsy? If they wanted to stop facism, they wouldn't stop at slap fighting them. They'd kill them...so it's obvious to me that they're just about starting fights.
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  20. Amaris

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    Fair point. If you want real violence, you go to the police.
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    So you're mad that antifa isn't out there killing people?

    Methinks you're getting your antifa news from pro-fascist sources. Let me guess, you're angrier about Andy NGO getting milkshaked than you are about Heather Heyer getting murdered?
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    “If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”

    ― Malcolm X
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    Okay, go get voted into office, then go around chanting blue lives don’t matter in public and see how well that works for you.
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    Nope. You must have just noticed me posting here. Hi. I'm Man Afraid of His Shoes. I wouldn't like it if Antifa started offing people for being racist bigots, but at least it would give some credence to their "We're defending the downtrodden from Nazi killers" mission statement. They aren't defending anyone from anything. They're just showing up to right wing demonstrations spoiling for a fight.
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    Why would I do that? We live in a country that fetishizes its police force. I mean, cops can literally kill black people for no reason, and you WILL see the news find criminal histories for each one of the people murdered.

    Because most neo Nazis are cowards who work better when people pretend that if they ignore them they'll go away. Anti-fascists know that keeping fascists in the crosshairs is how you keep fascists in the news as fascists rather than as "alt right protesters" or just disgruntled white men.
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    Did you never watch Power Rangers? The good guys don't escalate the level of force used until the bad guys do it first.

    Showing up where fascists are, ready to fight back, has kind of worked to discourage fascists. That's why antifa is leaving it at that for now. :async:
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    And the neo Nazis LOVE that about them because of post 22. Who do you figure Malcolm X was warning?
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    So you're saying Antifa shows up at right wing demonstrations only willing to fight if the other side throws the first punch? Is that what you're saying?
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    When I was living in Memphis, there was this Klan rally. They had to bus the kluckers in from the Midwest, but it was a Memphis Klan rally. Anyway, they were marching downtown when this brother chucked a molotov cocktail out a window on them. Lit them up like a bunch of their own crosses. It was epic. :lol:
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    Yes. :)