Squid game on netflix

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  1. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Here is another korean series where people get put into death games. Not a lot of supernatural stuff here, but some things are a bit unrealistic. It is a generally good watch with some interesting twists. It tries to say something about humanity in the end, but it makes a much better statement on human nature over all.

    The ideas is that there are people all over South Korea who are criminals or massively in debt and they have signed their lives away because of how in debt they are. They basically meet some guy who gives them a card with an opportunity to play these games for lots of money. They line up a bunch of characters with different motives who are really desperate for cash. The people who run the game kidnap all these people, and then make them play really simple childhood games, and if you lose you die. They also allow the players to kill each other, and each time a player dies the jackpot is increased.

    This one adds a bunch of things that makes it even more interesting. One of the rules is the players in the game can call off the games with a majority of votes. At a couple of points the games could be called off it all the players decide they want to go home. No one gets the prize money. There are a bunch of interesting sub plots, and they do explain things like why this obviously extremely wealthy group of people is doing this. It is batman type fantasy where rich people can operate above the law.

    It is a good watch with a few sad moments and you can get into the characters and the twists and turns come. The thing I really liked is a lot of the characters that you care for, because they have good parts and desires, are also not great people. They have been shitty on occasion and they are there for a reason. You feel sorry for some people, and sad for some people, but they put themselves here by their own selfish acts. It blunts the brutality.
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    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    Watching it now. It seems to parallel the theme of Netflix's Japanese series called "Alice in Borderland." Another interesting watch that proposes the same scenario of people meeting and competing, revealing their inner nature. In "Alice" it's some sort of parallel universe. Give Alice a viewing and lmk what you think.

    ETA: sorry we already had this discussion. Sort of.

    How would you compare the two?

    https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/alice-in-borderland-on-netflix.120933/
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Alice in borderland was somewhat supernatural. This one does not go into the supernatural area. This one actually exists within this world, and there are subplots that involve their lives outside of the game. It does conclude with showing what happens after the game ends. The characters are competing for money. There is a reason why the organization is doing what it is doing. The police are somewhat aware of the people disappearing and there is a plot with a detective infiltrating the game runners.

    This lets the series wrap itself up and make it's statements. There could be another series, but there are reasons why the conclusion can just end there. The players really do have a choice to play the game as opposed to Alice in Borderland. In this case too much discussion will give away some of the better reveals about the games, but like I said it is more like a batman thing where money allows you to do crazy things in a world that is limited like this one. Maybe some of the things you really could not do with money, but no one magically appears and disappears.
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    It'll be interesting to see how the 2nd season goes. I think there will be one, but yes, they ended it satisfactorily with about half the finale taking place after the climax. That post coital snuggle is missing in most media.

    I'm not sure how they can do a 2nd without seeming trite. Maybe they should put a fork in it and call it done.

    If you liked it, I'd recommend Chicago Typewriter as a good Korean drama. Memories of Alhambra is also worth a watch. I also liked It's OK to Not Be OK.
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    Lots of people are talking about this. I’ll check it out.
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    The creator said he had no plans for a second season. The greater social issues of the movie are not going to be solved, so a second season is not going to progress anything. Crushing debt, crime, rich exploiting the poor, and the general state of the world just are not within the story to be corrected. I guess you could show a take down of the organization, but you would lose the meaning of the end.
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    For those who have seen this, this is why a second season would be a disaster. Big spoilers ahead and some of this might not make sense without seeing the show anyway.

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    excellent review.

    Agree with everything you wrote. But wouldn't it be perfection for the writers and producers to sell out for a second season?
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Only if that means they use themselves as the cast and livestream real death games. I do not think it will happen now, but we are going to get death games on TV someday.
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    So I finished this show today, I really enjoyed it. Anyway,
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    Netflix will probably drop a large eight figure number on the creator for a second season. Given how much this has taken off in the US, a second season is all but inevitable. The only curiosity I have is to understand how these games got started. The records seemed to indicate the games started back 30 years ago?
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    I assumed the old man started them.
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    That will end like the matrix. That was a really well enclosed first movie which went off the rails because they had to make sequels. I did not hate the sequels like others did, but they certainly suffered from the same problems you have when you make an overpowered hero and then try to tone him down so you can have more plot.

    Squid games does not end in the overpowered problem, but sometimes it is just better to not try and make up story for a dollar when you do not have another idea. Clearly another game will happen, but without the old man's arc and the end realization of that pair you really lose a lot of the impact of the story. Also, a lot of the impact of the deaths becoming more and more personal gets lost when you know the games are really trying to fuck people over from the start. In the show you never knew they were really trying to bring it down to a single person.
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    Since the game has been going on for decades, you could up the stakes by having a tournament of champions, but still that’s just one aspect of the show. There still would have to something more to make it an interesting second season.
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