Discussion in 'Media Central' started by Diacanu, Jul 23, 2016.
I keep seeing comments elsewhere about how the Orions came off as a shitty "yellow peril" stereotype, but I thought Clint Howard's Orion made up for it by being the worst pirate/thief/slaver possible.
I don't have a problem with the Orions.
Funny thing, as soon as I got done with the DIS* finale, H&I was playing "In a mirror darkly".
*I'm going with this abbreviation, because Memory Alpha chose it, and they've essentially taken the torch for the Okuda Encyclopedia.
MA is the authority as far as I'm concerned.
I'd have thought he'd have been a Ferengi, I mean it's not like they'd need makeup to put him in that role.
Not much makeup, that's for sure.
Clint Howard was a better appearance for me than the Enterprise was
More Easter eggs.
The Enterprise looks great. The ideal situation would be this design with the finish from JJTrek (say what you will about the design, but they absolutely nailed the clean pearlescent look of the hull)
You know, the more I think about it, I realise that I am, in real life, living on a planet where several political leaders do carry buttons with them that can devastate our biosphere, and yet this has not lead to unity. Which also brings up the question of whether anything stops any other Klingon wannabe leader from inserting another bomb into their astoundingly fragile homeworld.
No they don't.
They do. They're just on the keyboards that they use to type the words "tell the EPA to shut up about climate change".
Sure they do. Not in so many words, but then that is just another way in which L'Rell's approach is unrealistic. Which in turn rises yet another question: Don't the Klingons have nukes?
One would think. After all for a "warrior culture" wouldn't bigger and better weapons be embraced. Plus we know that the Klingons have a deadly nerve gas and had no problem destroying the biosphere of that planet in ST:TNGs "The Chase".
One would think that if Klingons were as much about "honor" as they prattle on about in the modern Trek era that they would try to eschew weapons of mass destruction. Honor would seem to accrue more likely to individual or small group performance in battle, not by vaporizing an enemy unseen from thousands of miles away.
In truth, we've seen in Star Trek that "Klingon Honor" is a very highly flexible concept. Of course most of the modern stuff about "Klingon Honor" we got from Worf who wasn't even raised by other Klingons and likely got all his ideas about "Klingon Honor" from a Reader's Digest article his human father read to him.
Great review of the finale from CNET:
That's funny... When I first saw the Ceti Alpha V Eels, I thought they were the TNG Conspiracy aliens, but soon realized they were the CE5 eels.
But wouldn't it be awesome if ST: D picked up on that abandoned plot from TNG? Roddenberry originally wanted the Consiriacy aliens to be the harninger for The Borg, but the writer's strike in S2 delayed that plot til mid season and they completely revamped the borg. So that plot has been a loose dangling thread for 30 years now.
Fuck, I'm old.
Maybe they don't? We learned from DS9 that the Klingons were invaded by the Herc some time after the death of Kahless. I always assumed the Klingons advanced technology came from them, like how the Kazon took their stuff from their former Trabe masters. Since the sword of Kahless isn't the handgun of Kahless, maybe the Klingons jumped right from medieval times to being a (technically) warp capable species?
That actually makes an enormous amount of sense, and would also go some way towards explaining them being so insanely advanced along a different branch of technology, that allows them to graft minds unto one another.
See Harry Turtledove's The Road Not Taken for a similar concept.
Aww nose bump.
I do that with my pup.
He moves pretty fast, but not as fast as he would with a gay guy and a bunch of mushrooms inside him.
Actually IIRC the Borg had no connection to the "Conspiracy aliens" aside from Maurice Hurley wanting to make the Borg an insect race but quickly realized it was not affordable.
The Borg were actually suggested in the episode after "Conspiracy", "The Neutral Zone".
Well Discovery was far from perfect, but it was a great deal better than the shitty disaster that is TOS
What's your problem with The Original Series?
Can you be specific? And please nothing that is a result of the limited television production technology and limited budget of that era.
You want me to tell you why I don't like the show but only within the parameters you provide?
It's no wonder this emoticon is named after you
in a nut's hell?
Oh, and how about the limited acting, writing, and plotting of that era (79 episodes, maybe 30 good ones)? Or the lack of practical/aesthetic designs from ships to costumes? Can we cite that?
No matter... mostly, it's just irrelevant to a modern audience. The Federation in TOS is still playing off of a theme of manifest destiny (i.e.: Wagon Train to the Stars) rather than a flawed utopia.
I don't think a comparison of Nolan Batman vs Adam West Batman is out of order here.
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