Star Trek: Lower Decks

What is the worst TV death, out of curiosity?

Probably when Buffy's mom got killed when her plane was shot down coming home from the Korean War.

After Nemesis, the Trek show I always wanted was set on Captain Riker's USS Titan but it focused on the Lower Decks crew. I think that's why I loved the finale of STLD so much. It was as close as we'll ever get to that.

I spoke too soon!!

I’m telling you... Alex Kurtzman lurks here!!

I don't think @AlphaMan read the article.

Those fuckers better not retcon out all of the previous Titan novels. They're already gonna have to work around Riker making admiral.

Aw man!

So I feel stupid as hell. I had no idea Boimler was Hughie Campbell.

New interview(s) with Mike McMahon.

Summary points-
-Tendi and Rutherford are going to get more development. They won't just be sidekicks anymore.
-Picard likely won't ever appear, cuz the tone of ST-Picard won't allow for him to be a goofball.
-We'll definitely be getting more Riker though.
-We're going to learn more about the functionality of the Cerritos. Remember our "how do they get across the struts?" arguments? He's got an answer for that.

Full interview.
https://trekmovie.com/2020/12/10/mi...anges-and-why-picard-likely-wont-ever-appear/

A shame about Picard. TNG, and even Picard, definitely have moments where the character is a goofball. (in Picard, I'm thinking of the time he went undercover). Also, sometimes there's a need for straight men and women. Troi wasn't a goofball in her Lower Decks appearance, for instance.

Patrick Stewart was (sometimes) a riot on Family Guy and American Dad. When is Lower Decks set? Is it before the Destruction of Romulus? No reason Picard couldn't be at least a bit goofy for a brief moment or two prior to that.

IMHO Picard doesn't even need to be a goofball. Patrick Stewart could play the role completely straight and the jokes could come from the main characters fangirling over him. He could be the human equivalent of the Chu Chu dance.

Yeah, Lower Decks is set in 2380 and the destruction of Romulus is like seven years out, from what the Interwebs say.

Picard would be the third Chu

Good news to our British, Aussie, German, Austrian, etc friends, Lower Decks is coming to Amazon Prime in international markets.
You don't have to pirate anymore!

https://trekmovie.com/2020/12/17/st...-europe-australia-more-international-markets/

This show is supposed to be a chore to watch right? Like I’m supposed to watch out of obligation? A sense of completionism?

What, you don't like Star Trek: Rick and Morty?

LD is a very manic show. It's a little exhausting watching it. But if you like your fanservice to be as blatant and tortured as possible, it's definitely the show for you.

The first three or four were uneven IMO, and I watched mostly out of a sense of completionism.

The last three or so seemed to have them hit their stride and I actively look forward to the show's return.

I'm not a big fan of Milo Minderbinder characters as protagonists. Mariner knows everything and everyone, and she's friends with Klingon generals and famous Starfleet captains. She's connected to the black market, etc. etc. All well and good for a side character like, say, Nog, but kind of irritating and exhausting for a main character. It's hard to identify with a character like that.

I think the show would've been more interesting if Mariner had been written as an actual fuckup, but with a big ego. Then she could have had a redemption arc and all that. As written, the character can only go one of two ways: realizing she can be the awesomest thing since sliced bread either in or out of Starfleet.

People's mileage will vary, no disputing matters of taste and all that, but..

I don't see how Mariner knows any more than any of the main characters from any of the series. I don't see what is exhausting, irritating or hard to identify with her character.

I think the arcs they set up for the character -- addressing her psychological issues with her mom, with her fear of failure/success are interesting enough and are probably more potentially weighty than most of the arcs that the serious series protagonists have gone on with the exception of Sisko.

At first it was irritating that Mariner knows everyone, but then you got to figure if she's the daughter of a Captain, it makes sense that she might know some of these people. That being said, it does make for small universe syndrome.

She's the daughter of a Captain and an Admiral. So it makes sense that she knows a lot more than the average officer, even before taking into account her serving in Starfleet considerably longer than the rest of the lower deckers. (One of her old classmates is already a captain.)

Fun fact: Mariners voice actor is almost a decade older than Boimlers.

For what it's worth, I'm 100% convinced that LD was cast as though it was going to be a live action series, and then animated to match the actors TAS style.

Yeah, but LD is a love letter to 90's Trek, and 90's Trek was shamelessly made to Lego together.

I was thinking of how many times Picard knew the other captains in TNG and I feel like he knew some and had heard of others, but there hardly ever was a captain he didn't know or had heard of. Obviously he could easily access their service records as well.

That back half was a true jump in quality not unlike what happened for Enterprise between 2 and 3. Frankly, I trust LD's producers a whole lot more than I ever did Bermaga and if those hacks pulled a Houdini, I'm sure they'll be fine for this second season.

The Navy (and probably the other military branches) tend to be pretty insular.

I ended up connecting with a brother I hadn't seen since l was 11 and my dad skipped out on both our families while stationed in Japan because my watch bill was changed at the last minute, so Mariner knowing a Klingon general or two ain't so far-fetched for me.

If Starfleet is anything like retail, then Starfleet captains have regular meetings or conference calls with all of the other captains serving under the same Admiral, or operating in the same territory.