Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. Elwood

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    I've been focused on the "it" being the destruction of Romulas, Picard leads a relief/humanitarian fleet, and something goes sideways. The trailer even features a lot of what I presume are Romulan transports approaching Vulcan. I've read several fan theories on Reddit and other places but they all seem rather silly and, frankly, stupid. But, I saw one Saturday that wasn't quite so stupid after the trailer. Maybe Voyager did actually cripple the Borg during Endgame. Maybe the Federation is dealing with a staggeringly massive refugee crisis of now-suddenly-free drones. Maybe that was the relief/humanitarian fleet Picard was leading and that went sideways.

    That's...not so bad, especially in light of some information from the Picard exhibit at SDCC that contained a timeline:

    2379 - Events of Star Trek Nemesis

    2381 - Picard is promoted to Admiral and leaves to Enterprise-E for a "special assignment"

    2384 - Picard commands the largest rescue armada in Federation history

    2386 - Picard retires from Starfleet

    2387 - Romulus is destroyed

    2399 - Star Trek: Picard begins

    So, Picard's rescue armada happens roughly three years before Romulas is destroyed by the Hobus Supernova.
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  2. Zombie

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    But wait. Let's say that Voyager did mess the Borg up.

    There can't be that many people from races located in the Alpha and Beta quadrants. The Borg as powerful as they were did not conquer billions of Federation, Klingon, and Romulan peoples.

    The species the Borg took over is mostly Delta quad peoples.
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  3. Elwood

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    I figured Starfleet, in their attempt to be Boy Scouts, would try to help every now-freed drone, regardless of species. And, maybe, they've figured out a way to get back and forth to the Delta Quadrant fairly easily. STO used an Iconian Gateway in the Jenolan Dyson Sphere. I doubt the folks from Picard took many queues from STO, but I know the guys at STO spent a ton of time with the guys from Picard to figure out the who, what, where's, and how's so the Picard guys would know where STO had been and the STO guys would know where Picard was going so they could write their stuff accordingly.
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    Interesting who’s missing from this.

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    Yes, but Alpha and Beta are probably still safe havens for them. Even if those two quadrants only get a few percent of the Borg population as refugees, it would still be huge, at least more than would come from the 1 planet of Romulus.

    In addition, I think there is some confusion at least in Voyager as to the races that make up the bulk of the Borg. You are completely right that they should not be human. But then Seven's early assimilation would have to have been pre-TNG's first contact, and yet no-one seems to make a big deal of that. And in general, the Borg are presented as human cyborgs to the extent anyone can tell. Best explanation I have is that the ancient aliens that seeded so many Earth-like planets for TOS to find also went to Delta, and had their little experiments all wiped out when the Borg came.
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    This makes great sense, and promises a really good story. I hope they go that way.

    What I think they'll do instead is have the Hugh/Lore-Borg subsection reappear and be enslaved by the Romulans. Also not bad, but yours is better.
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  7. Diacanu

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    Finally, what was said at the Picard panel.

    https://trekmovie.com/2019/07/22/sdcc19-picard-panel-reveals-how-it-is-a-new-kind-of-star-trek-show/


    The leaked character sheet is useless, they gender/race swapped characters all around, flat out deleted some, and changed every single name.
    That's assuming it was ever real.
    Here's the real cast/characters.

    Alison Pill (Dr. Agnes Jurati)
    Michelle Hurd (Raffi Musiker)
    Santiago Cabrera (Cristobal ‘Chris’ Rios)
    Isa Briones (Dahj)
    Evan Evangora (Elnor)
    Harry Treadaway (Narek)
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    You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
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  9. Diacanu

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    Hey, y'know what wasn't in the Comic-Con info drop?

    What's the name of the fucking ship?!??!

    Every Trek show, we get the characters, and the ship.
    Lower Decks told us U.S.S. Cerritos, even though we didn't get a pic of it.
    What's the Picard ship, dammit??

    :rant: :shakefist:
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    I’m betting it’s Stargazer II: Intergalactic Boogaloo.
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    I like the comment about him working with two beautiful Romulan people, Picard having Romulans living and working on his vineyard is so damn TNG.
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    Picard's keeping slaves?
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    Hmm, it took me a second, but I get what you're driving at - is he paying them (in what?) or is this the Federation "work to enrich yourself" angle, in which case what are the Rommies getting out of it that they wouldn't get anyway (I assume the Federation would give refugees living space and a replicator)? Possibly Picard is able to use his access to Starfleet contacts to help track down their families and loved ones after the Romulan exodus, and they're working for him in gratitude?
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    Or, at the start, the ship is stolen and the crew don't like the existing name (or even know it? some civvie ships in TNG never had hull markings). So, until they come together enough as a team and agree a name, the writers are keeping us in the dark?

    Is it even a Federation ship? If they're "renegades", they might have an old Klingon or Rommie ship for the cloak.
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  22. Professor Sexbot

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    The Countdown comic is canon. B4 turned into Data and became Captain of the Enterprise. During his tenure as Captain, Data sought to aid the evacuation of the Romulan system by using Borg technology with the help of 7 of 9 and Hugh. It worked, but the unintended side-effects meant that thousands of refugees were now part of a local collective and had to be rehabilitated. Data was not viewed favorably because of this. It was theorized that some dormant B4 programming created by Shinzon may have been responsible. Whatever the reason, Starfleet wanted Data disassembled and examined and Picard was ordered to take him out. Picard did his duty and Starfleet disassembled Data. Picard left Starfleet after this. Now, thanks to this mysterious new woman, who has some connection to both Data and the Borg, Picard has a chance to redeem himself and redeem Data.
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  23. His Grace Faceman the Duke of Wordforge

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    A shitty comic book is not canon.
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    Never mind it throws away “Measure of a Man” where Data was deemed to have rights.
  25. Diacanu

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    Lore was switched off and dismantled because he was considered a threat.

    We accepted it, because he was a villain, but, he really should've gotten a trial.
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  26. Professor Sexbot

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    Shitty comic? Yes.

    Canon? Yes. Sorry. It has been explicitly stated as such.
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    He has rights until it looks like he has been compromised and the security of the Federation was at risk. The body that "Data" occupies spent a significant amount of time in the hands of the enemy and once "Data" implemented his crazy plan it needed to be determined whether or not there were nefarious factors at work. Immediate action was required, Picard took Data out and Starfleet disassembled Data until such a time that it could be determined that he was no longer a threat.

    Maybe Starfleet promised Picard that Data would get a trial and would be studied by the Daystrom institute while fully intact, but reneged on that promise, which then prompted Picard to retire in protest.
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    We don’t know if only Data got rights or all androids.
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    Really? On TV?
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    So, maybe that's Lore Picard's looking at in the drawer and not Data. :chris:
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