Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. Ten Lubak

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    With pineapple and olives on it tho
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  2. matthunter

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    And bunnies.

    Guess that speech to the Anticans was just bullshit, huh, Will?
  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Rosebud is sled.
    Vader is dad.
    You can get all deconstructionist and lip-curly like that with anything.
  4. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    The same reason drones walk around instead of directly transporting or flying everywhere like Iron Man? :clyde:
  5. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    frank no give damn
  6. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    :wtf: You have either never driven a vehicle with a stick shift or you just don't "like" to drive.
  7. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I have driven stick, and it's pretty annoying. Though I understand the practical benefit and I can see how someone can have fun in a manual car, it's not a great every day use car.

    Given that modern cars have continuously variable transmission that is more fuel efficient than either manual or automatic, and given that CVT can now mimic a manual transmission without dealing with the bullshit of a clutch, manual cars are obsolete other than for luddites, hobbyists, and masochists.
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  8. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Seven may very well know how to drive. Tom Paris liked to replicate muscle cars. It's possible he had her go for a drive. Would be a nice reference for Seven to use, especially if she turns out to be a kick ass driver.
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  9. Jenee

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    Well, ecology and practicality aside, obviously. ;-)

    I haven't driven a manual transmission vehicle in ... probably 25 years. But, it was fun.
  10. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I haven't used a CRT computer monitor in 20 years. It was fun too, but technology has improved to make them obsolete and unworthy of Borg assimilation. :borg:
  11. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    Totally different.

    You can't "drive" a CRT. I mean ... all you can really do is look at it.

    Please, feel free to submit attempt.

    I am not attempting to make an argument in favor of manual transmissions. My original statement was tongue in cheek.
  12. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Using that logic, you aren't really "driving" a manual, you're just moving sticks and wheels around and pressing levers and pedals.
  13. Jenee

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    No. But ..., whatever. I don't care enough about it to argue with you about it.
  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Ah, but you can't form the basis of particle beam weaponry off of LCD like you can CRT.
    ;)
  15. Nova

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    I find it intriguing if, maybe, a bit over-stuffed (at least the trailer, probably not the actual show)

    I wasn't a TNG generation fan, it's fine, there are things i like a lot about TNG and a lot of it I find uninteresting so I don't have the sort of investment in it I do with TOS/DS9 but even with that being the case, this is not pushing the "looks like shit" levers with me the way it is for some of you with more exacting expectations. As with all NuTrek, I'm enjoying it more than I did Voyager (by a significant margin) and so MOST of the time I'm content to enjoy the ride and not worry so much about stuff that could probably be better.

    Not to say NONE of it ever triggers me, but not enough to make me bitchy about it
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  16. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I like a good time travel story, but going back to modern Earth? That's been done to death.

    And 24th century Federation was already moving toward a security state with fascist overtones based on the previous season. Why not explore it there?

    Let's see:

    TOS:
    Assignment Earth
    City on the Edge of Forever
    Tomorrow is Yesterday
    Star Trek IV, the Voyage Home

    TNG:
    Time's Arrow

    DS9:
    Little Green Men
    Past Tense

    Voy:
    Future's End I & II

    Ent:
    Zero Hour
    Storm Front I & II

    Let alone the constant Holodeck adventure set in the past.

    Very happy to see Q back, like the Picard series in general, but I'll go into this one a bit dubious. Maybe they will surprise me.
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  17. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I think it would be cool if they do like the Eugenics Wars books, and reference all the other 20th century time travel stories.
    Easter eggs, old characters popping up, etc.
    Maybe an Edith Keeler homeless mission!
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  18. Federal Farmer

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    Unfortunately, they’re not that smart.
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    I'm sure your opinion on their intellect will just cripple their self-esteem, Mister BK-to-Michelin Chef.
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  20. ed629

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    I'm guessing that modern Earth setting is a budgetary reason. The first season of Picard had lots of new sets, by setting some of the story now lets Paramount lower their budget, which is probably needed with STNW also being filmed and produced at or around the same time.
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  21. Nova

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    One of the things that did occur to me - and I have no particular reason to think they'll actually do this - was that this sort of complex alternate timeline (that didn't lead to the mirror universe) thing would be an ideal way to update and expand upon the Eugenics War concept and work it into what we already know about their history - I mean, you probably can't fix the dating, or wouldn't try, but there are storytelling possibilities there.
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  22. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, I expanded on the theory you posted as a YT video to get to how the Federation goes fashy.
    Q erases "Q Who?".
    "Q Who?" erases "Best Of Both Worlds".
    BOBW erases "First Contact".
    FC erases "Regeneration".
    "Regeneration" erases the Hansen's Borg hunt, thus why Seven is de-Borgified.
    BOBW also erases the death of Jennifer Sisko.
    Ben Sisko never gets sent to DS9.
    Sisko doesn't save Kirk in "Trials And Tribbleations".
    Kirk isn't there to stop the evil Admiral conspiracy in "Undiscovered Country".
    Boom, fascist Federation.
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  23. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    I hope I'm wrong, but the trailer gives the impression that the writing for the second season is even sloppier than the first. :clyde:
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    You dare question the writing of NuTrek?:wtf:
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  25. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I mean, you don't get shit for shitting on the writing, you get shit for not knowing how to do it.
    "It stinks! It stinks because it's stinky! It's stinky cuz it stinks!" isn't valid criticism.
    Throwing "woke!" in there doesn't help either.
    It's like you come to a shoelace tying competition with velcro shoes, and genuinely wonder why everyone's laughing.
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  26. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    I've shared my complaints about the first season before, the character assassination, the excessive coincidences, the introduction of an absurdly dangerous threat that's not eliminated in the end but still shrugged off, the absurd number of copy-pasted ships in the final confrontation, Picard dying for no good reason and also reasons not clearly related to his heroic moment then immediately coming back to life anyway...

    If they wanted to reintroduce Q, I'd have had him appear in the last moments of the first season to congratulate Picard on saving the Synths with only minimal discreet assistance from Q himself. Maybe throw in a line about how Data was a friend to Q as well, and that the events of the season have ensured that the Data's "children" will continue to flourish forever or something.

    Seems dumb for "the trial" to continue even though Q won't be dealing with the real Picard, but rather a Synth programmed with the dying Picards brainwaves or whatever. It also seems dumb that Picard and the gang would have to pull of a time travel caper to win this time, since previously the trial was won first by "solving the mystery of Farpoint" and showing mercy instead of attacking the space jellyfish, and then by figuring out a temporal paradox that actually didn't make sense.
  27. Diacanu

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    See, FF?
    That's how you do it.

    I mean, I don't agree with any of that, but it's not stinky cuz it stinks cuz it's stinky.
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  28. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor You know what time it is

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    There's a very conspicuous planet in a very conspicuous star system where you can find this thing called the Admonition, and any Synth that visits it or mind melds anyone that visits it will receive the quick and easy instructions for ending all organic life in the universe. Oh, and at least one Synth already possesses those instructions and there's nothing to stop her from acting on them whenever the mood strikes, or sharing them with anyone else. That's an insane type of threat to introduce to a serious franchise, and this show creates it and then shrugs it off one episode later. "Eh, that one Synth changed her mind after Picard made a speech, she probably won't change it back later. Don't worry about it." It feels like something that belongs in a Futurama plot. "Bender's got a synthetic eldritch terror on speed dial, so he's using it to bully everyone at work." :shrug:
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    That's because the high-pitched whine of CRT would render them deaf to the rest of the Collective.
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  30. Diacanu

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    I mean, the Cytherians turned Barclay into cyber Dark Phoenix, and Ransom on LD just went Gary Mitchell times ten, both of them should be in a facility on Ritalin forever.
    Nope, they're allowed back into the crew.
    It's just a Trek trope by now.
    :shrug:
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