Discussion in 'Media Central' started by Diacanu, Apr 19, 2015.
They were lousy transfers, though, and some folks prefer the VHS versions.
Disney's getting ready to can Kennedy.
"SJW values! SJW values! SJW values!".
WTF does that mean?!?!?!
Why is that evil and scary?
I could see if Rey stopped in the middle of the movie and brought it to a dead crawl to lecture everyone about the wage gap, but politics didn't manifest in the storyline at all.
It's a gigantic galaxy, making it look like Leia, Mon Mothma, and Padme were the only three women in a billion-billion planets looked dumb.
You needed more chicks.
Plain and simple.
Isn't that like saying NFL teams need more women players? Nobody wants to see that!
Its funny how everyone sees it but you.
Walk me through it if it's so obvious.
You don't want to see it. It undermines the core of your beliefs.
Implying Lando is Pan sexual or bisexual, a droid pushing droid rights, Kennedy going after the OT fans. Specifically the men.
Saying shit like this.
"I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I don’t feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, 'Well, this is a franchise that’s appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'"
Wasn't in the movie, that's their fanfic canon.
Hell, Starlord fucked a tentacle monster, it was a running joke in the first Guardians.
Didn't see anyone losing sleep over that, and that was canon.
What? I thought that was funny.
Droids don't exist, how can that piss someone off?
"I don’t feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way".
How should she cater?
I'm old enough to remember when people thought that having Billy Dee Williams play Lando was done to throw a sop to those complaining about the lack of minority characters in Star Wars.
Not gays obviously.
What's the problem with the implication that Lando is pansexual?
Fictional person betrays his friend, gets double-crossed and joins the good guys because of that? This is fucking A!
Fuck, now he may also like boys and girls? Lynch the evil space-nigger!!!1111!!!!
For fucks sake.
I have little to no respect for the internet SJW's, tweeting their little "aren't I great!" moments of smugness, vainly fishing for acceptance from the vast fuck-giving-vacuum of the internet, but this shit...
What's the problem with more woman and a wider range of sexuality in SW?
Oh, I know from many fan groups its mainly the province of pasty fat fucks who want every woman they meet to be Slave Leia, and for them to fall in love with their charming halitosis, because, y'know, Jabba just didn't do enough WoW to catch her eye or some shit. Darth Wong probably looks white these days, with the lack of sun having leached his cells of every last molecule of melanin. But, y'know, grow out of that shit.
They turn Leia into lesbian, you've got a debate, they imply the guy with the cape and style might like a little from column 'B' once in a while? What's the problem?
It's not exactly Darth Vader coming out and joining Queer Eye to tart up the stormtroopers for Pride week on the Death Star is it? Luke didn't get a shiny new rainbow number for a lightsaber.
It's a big galaxy. You can expect women and a whole load of LGBT - and whatever other letters are being added these days, I lose track - in it.
And really, the whole Empire - and by extension, the New Order - are pretty much a fascist stereotype, so if anything, you'd expect to see such characters, especially in the Rebellion. The fact SW hasn't had them in previously is more to do with the era the OT appeared in, and in the PT because plot came a distant second to the overall tale and special effects. And I'm being kind to George Lucas there.
If it's that much of an anathema, start up a crowdfund for buying Disney. Then you can change SW into a big old space zoo for white straight males.
I don't think female characters are necessarily an SJW thing. Certainly, they can be feminist in the here's-a-capable-woman-protagonist (which I like) without being woman-against-the-evil-that-is-all-men (which I don't).
...to all be good characters that are feminist in a positive way and that aren't in any way offensively SJW.
I struggle to think of a "men suck!", female hero.
Thelma & Louise...maybe??
There were reviews that took it that way back in the day, anyway.
Even bending over backwards, and accepting that one, that's....one movie.
Roseanne in She-Devil.
My mind always blocks that that existed.
I don't think T&L even counts since there are at least a couple of likeable male characters (Harvey Keitel, Brad Pitt) in the film.
There really aren't any mainstream AND militant feminist films; that's pretty much an oxymoron. If it's the latter, it won't be the former.
The most SJW thing about the new Star Wars films are the lack of white male leads...if you don't count Harrison fucking Ford in TFA or Mark goddamn Hamill in TLJ.
I think Kylo Ren could be considered a lead character. And Poe Dameron is a pretty significant secondary character. Both white males. Both had large parts in TLJ.
And the Solo movie also has a white male lead of course.
So I don’t really get the SJW stuff. It seems like people are going off stuff Kathleen Kennedy has said in interviews rather than what’s actually in the movies.
I keep seeing this thing about Leia being a lesbian? Where is that mentioned or even hinted at? I’ve seen both sequel films and read the novelizations of both as well. Never found anything about that.
My problems with TLJ have nothing to do with politics. I just thought it was poorly written and boring in large stretches (especially all the Canto Bight stuff, really had nothing to do with the rest of the movie). I liked Finn in TFA but I think they really wasted the character in the sequel. Also didn’t like what they did with Luke’s character. But that has nothing to do with SJW or whatever. I don’t even know what that means. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Prefer the Thrawn Trilogy over this. I know it’s not canon anymore but I don’t care about that. It still better written and more enjoyable.
My only real issue with TLJ was the ship chase, which was done so very, very badly.
A lot of the Luke stuff is down to fans having built him up to be Space Jesus. He was going to rock up in a black trenchcoat and sunglasses, and like, totes Jedi the shit out of the New Order. Haha Adam from Girls! Now you're facing the guy who voiced the Joker, get ready for someone whose career has already been shit on by this franchise! Why, I've still got acting PTSD from being Skywalker-dicked right out of Amadeus and an Oscar nomination, and I'm going to take it out on Darth Emo!
Instead we got an aged hippy who'd fucked off to Intergalactic Goa when all his plans for peace, love and the entire Star Wars musical back catalogue to be reworked on mandolins and Moog synths failed to happen.
Basically we got an embittered John Lennon who'd never been shot, and had rolled over to face the horror of Yoko Ono in the morning once too often after a drunken night of bitterly doing 'Imagine' on karaoke, and screaming "you killed the dream" to a bar-full of confused drinkers at the end.
Which was a bit of reality creeping into the fantasy world, but since these fantasy worlds exist as both mirrors of, and escapes from, the real world, is no bad thing.
Luke showed Darth Mopey who was boss, and then Obi-Wanned himself.
Social Justice = good thing
Social Justice Warrior = a very, very bad thing
SJW's exist to show they care. Not actually care, but show it.
Before the internet got popular, you'd see them on anti-fascist marches, usually looking at moon-eyed at some angry black women who they would later try and get drunk and sleep with, and, if successful, a decade later would be discussing with their tedious middle class friends as a night of amazing sex with a Nubian goddess, whilst she'd be telling her friends about the night got date raped.
Now they just stalk them on Twitter as they top up their wank banks with fantasy sex. Which is a kind of improvement in them being less date-rapey I guess.
Kathleen Kennedy has finally confirmed that the Boba-Fett movie is 100% dead.
Now, announce Obiwan instead.
The Force is with us.
Boris Johnson claims that the Kenobi movie will start shooting in Northern Ireland, with George Lucas at the helm, next year. https://movieweb.com/obi-wan-kenobi-movie-rumor-george-lucas-directing-ireland-2019/
If that’s true, I’m not sure what to think.
I'd give it a chance.
Want a Kenobi movie but don't believe for a second that Lucas will be directing one.
If they’re filming in Ireland, perhaps Kenobi visits Achtoo for some reason?
Put zero stock in that report.
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