Discussion in 'Media Central' started by The Night Funky, May 20, 2017.
It's happening, Arnie's involved and so is Cameron.
This will be 6.
An even two trilogies.
I'm kinda hoping this franchise will not be back.
If they don't follow on from Genisys, then either they have to provide yet another reason why the Arnold-model Terminator is so friggin' old, or they have to make Arnold a human character as a form of (wink, wink) stunt casting. I suppose they could revive the Sergeant Candy idea.
Someone needs to find a fresh story to tell, because recycling the previous episodes is getting very, very weak.
Except how can there be a trilogy if nothing is resolved in the span of 3 movies?
I mean, T1-T3 sorta work as a trilogy, I guess, though the non-presence of Linda Hamilton in T3--to say nothing of its general suckageness--diminishes the trilogicity(?) because it doesn't feel like there's good closure on Sarah's story. The first "trilogy" starts with Sarah-the-waitress, progresses to Sarah-the-badass, and concludes with...Sarah-the-several-years-dead-leukemia-patient. Cool story, brah!
But T:S, T:G, and...whatever...are probably going to be three mainly unconnected movies, films that could exist without any of the others in the same cycle. Hell, Genisys raises a whole bunch of questions that will now (probably) never be answered.
I've got it!
Skynet sends a Terminator all the way back to ancient times to erase the Connor bloodline once and for all, and that ancestor is....CONAN!
"Skynet! I have never prayed to you before. My programming does not allow it. No one, not even you, will remember whether I was a good Terminator or bad, why I came back in time or why I was terminated. No, all that matters is that two of my movies were pretty good. That's what's important! Box office pleases the producers, Skynet, so grant me one request: grant me a hit movie. And if you do not listen? Fuck you, asshole."
Option 3: De-age Arnold the same way that Kurt Russell was de-aged in GOTG Vol. 2.
Dear James Cameron, please fix this franchise and then end it once and for all.
The two problems is they never really franchised it well, and the actual antagonist - Skynet - is barely there.
The main story should've been a trilogy, going along ye olde games metier of building up to the Big Boss (Skynet) in the third one, and providing a resolution.
Then you franchise the shit out of it with spin offs - Salvation wasn't bad, but it smelled of spin-off rather than core Terminator movie, and if you want to do that, embrace it.
Instead, after 2, they did a piss-weak third one.
Genisys wasn't bad, but suffered from trying to be clever with timelines and be an action movie, frequently losing focus. It was the sort of thing Christopher Nolan could have done with verve, but we ended up with a half-assed reboot of T1 that was scared of being an intelligent play on the effects of time travel, and the script was too smart to play as pure thrilling action movie like the original was.
It appears to be a reboot.
The continuity is so screwed up, it's hard to think how else they could proceed.
Other than leaving well alone of course.
I remember back in the day when they could not make a third Terminator movie because James Cameron's ex wife ended up with part of the rights to them due to a typically nasty divorce.
They could always give tscc a proper ending...just saying.
Linda Hamilton is coming back!
Okay, NOW I'm interested!
Oh, I didn't read the whole thing.
It's a direct sequel to "Judgement Day", so it would seem they're sweeping away, T3, Salvation, and Genisys.
I really liked Salvation. Even if they scrap it, it still works as a stand alone, IMHO.
Shit, he may just pull it off.
The good thing about time travel is they can just say that all the screwing around overwrote certain of the things that happened, and restored the time line to where it was at then end of T2.
I dunno, I think this is a mistake. They should be looking to start something new with the franchise, not hoping to recapture glory from (gasp!) 26 years ago.
I'm thinking wait and see. It's not impossible to catch lightning in a bottle again.
Not impossible, just unlikely. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull comes to mind. Of course, I'll gladly eat crow if they come up with something great.
Given that Hamilton is in her 60s and Ahnuld is in his 70s, I think the franchise really needs to get some fresh blood if it's going to go another generation.
This yet MORE no originality from Hollywood.
They might take a play from the proposed TSCC 3rd season script and have a post war old Sarah as a resistance commander/figurehead.
And then send her back in time to right after T2.
Bada-boom-bada-bing, we're right back home in the version of the story we loved.
Given how Hamilton looked a bit like a ambulatory couch in Defiance, I'm a bit wary of this.
Just fully reboot the fucker with fresh blood. Terminator is a stand-out sci-fi/horror practically begging for an almost scene-by-scene remake with modern techniques, and T2 is a stand-out actioner with a dusting of philosophy for good measure that.
Sit down, recognise the first two are going to be hard to improve upon from a perspective of story so, y'know, don't bother, just dust off the scripts and get new actors, and figure out a third one that does justice to the first two.
You've got a new trilogy.
Sometimes you don't need originality, you just need to update.
We're not getting fresh blood til Cameron and Schwarzenegger die.
That may frustrate from a fan perspective, but one could argue they own that character as much as Rowling owns Harry Potter.
I'm wondering about some of the behind-the-scenes details. Cameron and Hamilton are said to have had a pretty bitter divorce, so how did the studio get the two to agree to work together again?
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