The decline of physical media

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  1. We Are Borg vs. USS Crazy Horse

    We Are Borg vs. USS Crazy Horse Probably a Dual

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    2020 was a brutal year for many reasons, and the pandemic may have hastened the demise of physical media. DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K media sales have been declining for almost a decade, but this past year was a whopper. The Digital Bits reports that physical media revenue was down 20.46% in 2020.

    The extra features on physical media still beat what you can get on streaming services, and I like the fact that you control the content when you purchase a Blu-Ray. But I admit my purchases of physical media has really tanked over the past year or two. Still, there's something to be said about it.

    I was watching Infinity War on Disney+ last night and it kept glitching (I notice Disney+ does that a lot). It got so annoying that I had to pop in my Blu-Ray copy.
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    It's been quite a while since I bought any Blu-rays. I don't recall buying any in 2020 and maybe only one in 2019.

    I still buy CDs when they're available, though.
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  3. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    That's about the same for me, I last bought a Bluray in 2019, none last year. Even then, I used the digital code to watch it through Vudu. I've only used physical media a few times in the last 3-4 years. The only reason for using physical media was because the internet was out and wound up watching a few movies using the bluray discs.
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    Here's an oddball thing: Over the past five years at least, maybe 10, I've hardly purchased ANY physical media. Almost everything I wanted to watch was on Netflix. But now the splintering of the streaming market, combined with wanting to see the extras on shows I really like, may be changing that.
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Yeah, I've pretty much stopped buying physical media, with the single exception of books. Everything I want in terms of music, movies, and television is available on stream, so . . .
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  6. We Are Borg vs. USS Crazy Horse

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    I will never get used to e-readers. I get that they're handy (particularly for travel) and you can store hundreds of books.

    Nothing beats holding an actual book in your hands.
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    The nice thing about a book, when it's one that I've read before, is that if I'm trying to find something in the book that isn't indexed (assuming that it has one), is that I can pick up a copy of the book, quickly flip to the area of the book that I know the topic is in, and then do a quick skim of the text on the page to find the exact thing I'm looking for. That's really handy when all you can remember about the text in a particular section are "generic" words and phrases that a search of the text would turn up hundreds, if not thousands of examples, and depending upon the quality of the search engine being used, might not even find all instances of those words.

    Also, the pagination of ebooks and physical books can vary wildly. So, just because the Kindle app tells you that a particular piece of text is on such-and-such page, doesn't mean that this holds true if the person is looking at the physical book, or is reading it on a device that has a different sized screen than yours.

    I do, though very rarely, buy physical media when it comes to movies/TV shows. This is because that there are versions that are only available on physical media and I prefer them to what's on a streaming service.
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  8. Faceman

    Faceman Negative Creep

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    I bought my first blu ray in over five years a few months ago (aside from discs I buy as gifts for old people). It was Tenet. I wanted to be sure to see the aspect ratio changing and no one could guarantee it would be on VOD. It’s unlikely I’ll ever watch it again so it was like buying a theater ticket. Something I haven’t done in over a year.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I have a massive DVD collection (2500+), but I almost never watch any of it. I bought my first DVD in a long, long, long time a few months back, but it was just some crappy old TV movie that I wanted to watch for nostalgia's sake. Oh, and I've since bought another one just because it was a classic film noir I really wanted to see and it's not available in anything other than DVD.

    I have a lot of Blu-Rays (1200+) and still watch them quite regularly, but the only new ones I've bought lately are from the Criterion Collection, which I'm hooked on.

    If I buy physical media today, it will be a 4K UHD. But I'm sticking to my plan of buying only new stuff that interests me and bonafide classics in the format, so I only have around 100 titles. I don't think there will ever be the wealth of back catalog titles for UHD like there were for DVD and Blu-Ray. It's too much effort for too small an audience. And that's fine because for me Blu-Ray/1080P is sufficient for most films, particularly older ones. Even an anamorphic DVD can look surprisingly good on a big screen TV.
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    Physical media is my thing. I stream a movie every once in a while and now that theaters are dying and WB is streaming everything, I will be streaming movies more often, but I still like to have the blue ray. With PS5 coming out, I fully intend on buying 4K disks. I like the content on Blu rays, especially Christopher Nolan films. I’m not giving up on physical media any time soon.
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    Buy music online by the song, burn 'em to CD. Unless there's a good collection by a good artist in the discount bin, or I'm supporting a favorite artist.
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    It seems like the rise of streaming can push physical media into one of two directions ...

    (1) "Meh, we're not gonna make very much money on this anyway, so let's just do it as cheaply as possible, or maybe just not bother at all."

    (2) "If we want to keep selling DVDs, we're going to have to up our game."

    I'm hoping it's the second one, but who knows...
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  13. Bickendan

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    I was gonna say, was it Dora the Explorer and the Secret of the Blu-Ray Cave? :ramen:
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  14. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Haven't bought a physical release in forever. I miss commentaries. :(
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    Just a small recommendation. He does not do deleted scene because it probably violated copywrite, but Minty's comedic arts does 10 things you did not know about bunches of films which is often a well researched summary of internet knowledge and extra points from DVD and blue ray extras. I find deleted scenes are often restored during directors cuts and long cuts anyway, and minty presents in such a way that I do not find the need for extras because he edits it down to an entertaining comprehensive presentation.

    I find his work to be a good companion to the piece, and he does not come off as a pretentious movie geek who is bragging about how much he knows. It probably would not work with something like the extras on the lord of the rings because there was so much educational detail jackson and the producers put into the production, but for most movies minty kicks ass.
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  16. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I am completely skipping blue ray. I think eventually there will be premium online services where you pay for access to extras. They will monetize it someday. I would be tempted to have some DVDs, but even then I rip them to digital format and keep them on a large storage drive. I would possibly pay for a digital copy with the extras. Something on a platform like steam where I could always have some rights to download a HQ digital copy to my personal drive and not share it with anyone. I go to hotels, camping, and might have downtime on my connection where I just plug in the 4tb drive and watch a movie or show from my library.

    I do not really want physical media anymore because I have lost DVDs to age and physical damage in moves. I also do not want to pay for my library again. I will watch spaceballs on netflix because I have netflix for other things, and netflix has the movie. I do not whip out my spaceballs DVD just because I have it. if netflixi does not have it then I would have to buy a title. I do not trust that disney would give me digital access to titles forever if I purchased a digital copy because they love to lock up their products to force people to buy them again. Since I cannot trust disney to do something like that I am going to rip or pirate a HQ rip of the titles of theirs I have bought or owned.
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    So over the weekend I tried to watch a movie on Blu-ray and discovered that my ancient Samsung player wouldn't work properly. It would load the disc menu, but wouldn't do anything beyond that. Wouldn't play. Wouldn't let you select a scene. Nothing. I tried different movies with the same result.

    At first I thought it might've needed a firmware update (I had to to that a couple of times over the years) but before going that route I went online to check prices on getting another one and couldn't find any new Samsung devices for sale, only old stock.

    It turns out Samsung announced over two years ago that they were getting out of the Blu-ray business. Partly because of streaming, partly because of Samsung's proprietary format support.

    So I ditched the firmware plan and ordered a Sony player, which arrived yesterday and works great with the same discs that the Samsung machine wouldn't play.

    I'm re-watching Battlestar Galactica right now and also listening to the commentary/podcast for each episode. Streaming is convenient, but I do enjoy the extra features available on a disc. :yes:
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  18. GhostEcho

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    Crud, it just dawned on me that Blu-Ray Discs were first released commercially FIFTEEN frackin' years ago already!
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  19. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    I have a friend who's still pissed off that he gambled on HD DVD instead of Blu-ray. :lol:
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  20. Uncle Albert

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    Most movies and TV shows I actually like, I buy on blu ray. And I get the CD if I like a song. One of these days I'll figure out how to save them all to a thumb drive or something. Keep it in my bug-out bag so the sacred library is always preserved.
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    I used to use my old Samsung Blu-Ray player for streaming services since my Samsung TV was an older model without internet. Even before they got out of the Blu-Ray business, their firmware stopped supporting stuff like Amazon Prime (and never supported Disney+) so into the garbage bin it went. I now use a PS4 for streaming and Blu-Rays.

    Samsung does make kick-ass TVs, though.
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  22. shootER

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    That old Samsung player had streaming capability (so does the Sony that replaced it) but I never used it, opting for a Fire and now Fire Stick instead.

    :yes:

    When I was looking to buy my first HD set, I asked the engineers at work which was the best to purchase. They all said to go with Samsung and, with the exception of a Sony I got on a really good BestBuy sale some years ago, all the ones in my house (and my kids' apartments) are Samsung.
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  23. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    side-note about thumb drives: I accidently left one of mine in my pants pocket and it went through the wash & dry cycles. :( But wouldn't you know, it still works like a champ! :)
    But in fairness I never left a 12" vinyl album in my pocket, so who know how that would turn out?
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  24. Tererun

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    It is really not hard to do. It is just time consuming. This may not be a completely legal recommendation, but if you own the media you should be able to have a digital copy of it, so just get the pirated version of it. I saved a lot of time on ripping my movie collection by just going out and getting a good rip. You can chose your encoding quality.

    before you get into the virus thing, it is just as likely you get a virus if you go after ripping software. I have not tried ripping blue ray, but DVD ripping can be a PITA with some of the software out there. It took a while for me to get used to how to rip things to decent quality. I am not sure a blue ray rip off the programs I was using would have preserved the blue ray quality in any way.

    There are people online who release great quality blue ray rips and if you just have a couple of common titles I would just go with it. The only problem you might have is being throttled by your ISP so use some sort of VPN software. If you have a legally purchased blue ray disk then you have paid your dues for it.
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I am pretty sure the dryer would warp that fucker. I would say solid state chips would probably be fine through the wash. They would do better than a CD, tape, or lots of other magnetic recording media.