The Family

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by The Night Monkey, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:27 AM.

  1. The Night Monkey

    The Night Monkey Definitely not Peter Parker

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    This is a yuuuuuuge popcorn thread. Now I see what @Nova has been saying about the Pharisees in the US. I can see why @Tracker likes Trump so much, he claims to be a christian, yet doesn't really act as a Christian. This group basically is the evangelical community. They pull the strings in Washington especially within the religious right, but not exclusively. The documentary is a bit long and they do try to take you down a certain road, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions. I've heard of the National Prayer Breakfast, but I've never payed much attention to it. This should be fun! :evilpop:
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  2. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    I've read the Jeff Sharlet book it's based on, and they're some scary folks. Absolutely no respect for the Constitution.
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  3. The Night Monkey

    The Night Monkey Definitely not Peter Parker

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    It doesn't seem that way.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    I saw this was an option yesterday morning when I was scrolling through Netlix choices but figured it was one of these "speculation" shows like the UFO/alien shows. I've never heard of this "family" group.
    It might be interesting though to check out - I might start watching it tomorrow morning about this time.
  5. The Night Monkey

    The Night Monkey Definitely not Peter Parker

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    It's a little more than speculation.
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  6. Tracker

    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    Except for the fact that I detest Donald Trump. I do like several of the policies he has advanced but I find him personally detestable.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    I will find out tomorrow morning then.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    many people feel the same way it seems. I wouldn't want to work for him that's for sure.
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  9. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    But not so detestable that you will work to see that he's defeated in 2020.
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  10. Tracker

    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    If he is replaced by another Republican I'm fine with that. Eager in fact. But no sane person would choose one of the current Democratic candidates.
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  11. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    But you're not going to do anything to support William Weld's primary challenge to Trump. So, no matter how much you claim to find Trump detestable, you really don't. You just like to claim it so you can feel better about yourself.
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  12. Tracker

    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    What makes you think I haven't sent Weld a contribution already?
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Elizabeth Warren would make a fine President. Biden would be . . . okay, in a caretaker sort of way. Beto O'Rourke would be interesting and I would vote for him over Trump for DAMN sure.
    Hell, I'd vote for you over Trump, the orange moron is so bad . . .
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  14. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    Because you're a combination of poor and a Trump bootlicker?
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    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    Because he's firmly in the pro-abortion camp, and we all know that there's nothing you hate more than abortion. https://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bill_Weld_Abortion.htm
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    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    You are correct. But I have sent letters urging Republicans like John Kasich to run for president.
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    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    Which means nothing to them. So again, all you've done are meaningless token gestures that have no hope of changing anything, but allow you to pretend that you're doing something. :clap:
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    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    You never know. I wrote letters in 1998 urging Governor George W. Bush to run for president.

    I later sent him letters in 2001 urging him to invade Iraq.
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    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    FTFY.
    Only an idiot would think that the word of some nobody in the middle of nowhere would influence a major political figure. Especially when the political figure was someone who had already displayed those inclinations.
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  20. Tracker

    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    Every avalanche starts somewhere.
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  21. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    Not with you.
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  22. Tracker

    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    No one ever thought Gavril Princip would create the 20th century world either.
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  23. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    But he didn't write letters, he actually went out and did something. Which you never do. I can tell you exactly what happened with your letter: A low-level staffer opened it, skimmed it for the contents, then, possibly, ticked a box on a form which closest matched the contents of the letter, and it would wind up on a report in the form of a number that a higher level staffer would read. If that staffer thought that the total number for the particular category was of interest to the politician, he'd mention it to him. The politician almost certainly never saw your letter, and neither did anyone else in his organization, unless the politician had a policy of asking the staff to give him a sampling of those letters to read, or your letter was so insane that it was one of the "crank" letters staffers like to share amongst one another to have a good laugh about. Given that W was said to not be all that big on reading, and knowing the kinds of things that you write, the latter is almost certainly more possible than the former. I say this as someone who has worked for political campaigns in the past.
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  24. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Fresh Meat

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    I'll wager I worked for a politicsl (presidential) campaign before you did. ;)
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    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    Don't care.
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  26. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Fresh Meat

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    He's no more detestable than most here on the left. At least he doesn't hate the country.
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  27. Tracker

    Tracker Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    Probably true. But I would really like someone better as my president.
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    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    No, you wouldn't. At most, you'd like someone who was kinda different than Trump, but even so, you're not willing to do any of the real work needed to make that happen.
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  29. Quest

    Quest not leaving Staff Member Administrator

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    He does though.
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  30. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Fresh Meat

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    Don't be silly. He loves it and he's very effective at running it. I'll say hi for you on Thursday when I see him in New Hampshire.
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