The Jeffery Epstein Case

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Since it looks like this is going to last a while, and have a lot of news stories, I figured we ought to start a thread on it instead cluttering up the Pile thread. This story just hit the news.

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    The Clintons will get to him before any court of law does :bergman:
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    He’s been trying to get released to await the trial and would likely try to flee. I wouldn’t be surprised if he staged this to try and be released for his own safety. They should stick him in solitary under suicide watch.
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    I'm not found of solitary confinement as an option for anyone, but definitely keep his ass cuffed to a bed in the med ward.
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    Violation of rights there.

    Just post a guard on him 24-7.
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    Good to see you are open about preferential treatment for old white rapists and child molesters.
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    It is? :unsure:

    I thought that was a thing they still did. I thought some states only recently got that removed for women inmates in labor.

    Still, no solitary is my sticking point.
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    You do have to remember @Zombie supports free showers for black inmates. Free boiling hot showers you are trapped in for 2 hours while your skin is melted off and you die, but if it is a white dude who molests children and rapes bitches on his island handcuffs are a human rights violation.
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    Yes.

    You can't keep him cuffed to a bed in the med ward for his entire stay in jail.

    The injuries reported are not enough that he would have to be hospitalized. If they were they would eventually move to a shackle with a long length chain on it so he could reach the bathroom if he was mobile. Or if the facility he is at has them in a cell that is basically a hospital room but with a cell door on it. Windows as well so he could be watched. Camera as well in some cases.

    While he's in the med ward or hospital getting checked out he would be cuffed to the bed or wheelchair. Once cleared however he goes back to his cell. He's not cuffed.

    If he's suicidal he'll be put in a Ferguson garment and placed under watch. Usually it's a 15 minute check but if he's self injuring himself an officer would be assigned to him alone to keep an eye on him.

    I just did such a detail a couple days ago. Have an inmate, likes to cut himself, that I had to be at his door for the entire shift.

    Restraining an inmate 24-7 is a violation of his 8th Amendment rights. Remember that as scummy as he is, and the fact we all know he's guilty, in the eyes of the law he's still innocent of the charges against him. He hasn't been convicted. Yet.

    Can't speak for other states but Florida, in the jails not sure about the prison system, we don't handcuff pregnant women at all unless they present a special risk. In other words they have to be one of those asshole inmates that you have to restrain just to keep them under control.

    Inmates in surgery are not handcuffed. Also not cuffed when doing MRI's. X-Ray's depend on what's being checked out. Had an inmate with a possible broken wrist a couple months ago. He was shackled while they did the X-Ray since they only needed to X-Ray the wrist.

    Epstein can't be in GP. He will be killed. Either by someone who hates pedos and wants the street cred for killing a rich pedo or frankly by someone hiring a hit on him.

    He has to be in solitary at least until his conviction.

    I'm surprised he wasn't already assigned an officer detail given his case. They really dropped the ball on this one. This guy possibly has information on a whole lot of people for them to treat him like any other inmate.
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    Thanks for the sincere answer.

    That said, are they gonna put a guy with his status in solitary? I agree he can't go into gen pop because that's gonna be a PITA for the guards to deal with, but he's rich enough to sue the living daylights out of the department for violating his rights. People ain't so fond of solitary confinement as a way to deal with problems.

    I get what you're saying in theory, but how's this gonna work in practice? Not trolling, just genuinely wondering.
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    He's not going to be able to sue the department for violating his rights as it's not a violation of his rights to put him in solitary confinement if it can be justified.

    This is certainly a case where it could be justified in a court and I doubt a judge would overrule the DOJ on this one. It could happen of course but given the very high-profile nature of his case along with the fact that he apparently just attempted to kill himself I don't see a judge ruling in his favor.

    I also don't see his lawyers wanting him in GP either. They know what's going to happen to him in GP. That's the last place they are going to want him.

    It's simple. He will be in the only one in his cell. He won't be in the yard with others and will be kept away from other inmates at all times.
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    I think it's been updated as when I posted it, I didn't see his name in the article at all.
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    I wonder if these are the same people who Corey Feldman does not want to name.
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    Yeah, it is, but the connections it talks about seem to be legit, even if it's conspiracy spewing nonsense isn't.
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    and... they got him!

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    Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in prison, report says

    Wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein has killed himself in prison, according to a media report by ABC News.

    Epstein, 66, had been accused of sex trafficking and was being held without bail in jail after being arrested on 6 July. He pleaded not guilty to the charges.

    His death comes a day after unsealed documents in New York revealed the extent of his abuse of young women at his home in Palm Beach, New York and the Virgin Islands.

    Epstein had been held since he was arrested on charges relating to alleged sexual misconduct from at least 2002 to 2005.

    An earlier attempt to prosecute him on similar charges collapsed when authorities granted him an unusually generous deal to plead guilty to state prostitution charges in Florida.

    His death comes just days after he was found unconscious in a Manhattan jail cell with injuries to his neck, US media had reported, citing unidentified sources.

    It was not clear how he suffered those injuries. Two anonymous sources told New York’s local NBC News 4 that Epstein’s injuries may have been self-inflicted, while another said an assault by another inmate had not been ruled out.

    After the incident, Epstein was placed on suicide watch.
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    for historic contrast...


    Ernst Julius Günther Röhm (German: [ˈɛɐ̯nst ˈʁøːm]; 28 November 1887 – 1 July 1934) was a German military officer and an early member of the Nazi Party. As one of the members of its predecessor, the German Workers' Party, he was a close friend and early ally of Adolf Hitler and a co-founder of the Sturmabteilung (SA, "Storm Battalion"), the Nazi Party's militia, and later was its commander. By 1934, the German Army feared the SA's influence and Hitler had come to see Röhm as a potential rival, so he was executed during the Night of the Long Knives.
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