The Lighthouse

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  1. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Ok.

    I finally saw this.

    Superb acting by Willem Defoe and Robert Pattinson.

    Stylishly and beautifully filmed to evoke films from the 30s and 40s.

    Wonderful atmosphere of dread and foreboding keeps the viewer riveted.

    I just have one question:



    WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?



    I've subsequently watched several videos on it and hear the same things: something something Greek mythology something something Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner.

    I still don't get it.

    Anyone else seen it?
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    now that I've read your review I certainly won't be seeing it. Not a fan of movies that are too clever for their own good. If you want to be clever and have the movie still be effective on different levels at the same time (the ideal situation) I have no problem with that.
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  3. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    It isn't that it's too clever.

    Too clever would mean there is an answer even if it's too difficult to uncover.

    Here, I don't think there is an answer. EVERYTHING in this film is up for interpretation.
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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Cool off with a hugh jackman movie. I suggest The Fountain.
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  5. Minsc&Boo

    Minsc&Boo Fresh Meat

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    Fountain is great! Oldfella has to watch it too amazon prime video has Syriana a good film that has Clooney in it.
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    Since we're the only two that actually saw it. Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed, SPOILERS OFF!!!
















    starting next post.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    I saw Syriana - great movie!
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    OK 2nd post. OF you clumsy oaf.

    Yes! This is one that stuck with me. The wife won't forgive me for making her see it in the theater, (Pattinson sucked her in; she's a Twilight fan, hah!)

    I think we were seeing things from Pattinson's point of view, and he actually was crazy. Dafoe was whacked but not certifiable.
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    Alexander Sidding played Bashir on deep space nine to the reform orientied prince his unclel is Malcom McDowell.
  10. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Yes, and since Pattinson's character is going mad, things he experiences cannot be taken at face value.

    But that ending calls everything into question. If the ending scene--involving the gulls--is objectively true, then maybe none of the preceeding happened.
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    I might have to watch again (without the wife). From what I remember the ending (liver eating scene?) was pretty much consistent with everything else and Pattinson probably read too many classics.

    No gulls were hurt in the making. I read they even green screened the actors into the scenes with gulls so they wouldn't stress the birds.
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    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    Here's a good article:

    And the intention there is for the audience to be like, “Wait? What?” Hopefully we pulled it off.

    Alissa Wilkinson
    Which means you end up with a movie where people want to watch it again as soon as it’s over.

    Robert Eggers
    Well, that’s always good, because we’re not going to sell that many tickets to a black-and-white movie otherwise.

    Alissa Wilkinson
    You might be okay.

    Robert Eggers
    We’ll see.

    link
    For more fun viewing, Eggers' The Witch is on netflix now.
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    Just saw it on Amazon Prime this evening.

    The film was a steaming pile of pretentious crap from start to finish, which is unfortunate because I quite liked Eggers' first film The VVitch (note the correct spelling).

    Pattison and Defoe were brilliant and I give Eggers credit for creating a foreboding atmosphere, but everything else was just... seagull crap and mermaid jizz.

    As you said, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

    By contrast, if you want to see a film that portrays the slow descent into insanity without being so obviously pretentious, check out Stanley Kubrick's The Shining.

    4/10... and only because of the solid two lead actors.
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  14. steve2^4

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    Yet you'll remember it.
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    I'm sorry, what? The Shining, not pretentious? Are you kidding?
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    No, I'm not kidding. It's a fucking work of genius.

    And if you disagree, you're dead to me. :bergman:
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    YMMV, but I don't find The Shining pretentious. :shrug:

    WAB is right when he compares the two: both (apparently) involve a descent into madness and (only perhaps in The Lighthouse's case) some connection to the supernatural.

    But The Shining has closure. Even if the audience doesn't understand everything that happened (or the meaning of that last photograph), the story itself seems complete.

    The Lighthouse doesn't offer any kind of closure. Is that last shot of Pattinson's character reality? Is it a consequence of what he saw in the lighthouse? Was any of it real?

    I don't mind enigmatic, but I finished The Lighthouse feeling I couldn't even say what happened, or what aspects of the story were "real."
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    Some people may misinterpret Stanley Kubrick's meticulous filmmaking as "pretentious", but that would be inaccurate. His attention to the detail and technical aspects of film were unparalleled in his generation of filmmakers.
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    yeah, The Shining was a masterpiece. The novel wasn't bad either, but it had its silly moments like all Stephen King's books.

    In 40 years I doubt we'll be talking about The Lighthouse. But I'll remember it if we do.
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    Yes, it's one of those rare cases where the film was much better than the book (I know that will piss off some King purists).

    Also, I've already forgotten about The Lighthouse. :shrug:
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    I picked up another awful gothic horror a couple weeks ago. I remember it from my stint as an usher at the local cinema in 1972. Didn't think to check youtube. I seem to have a thing for lighthouses. Spoiler: it's about necrophilia and zombies.

    Here it is in all its pulchritude. I dare you to watch it:

  22. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf Sir, I must protest! I am NOT a dairy man!

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    I heard the original script for this movie had Willem Dafoe putting children in cages. Glad they didn't go with that.