The NRA may be in some deep shit

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  1. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Probably not a good idea to squander your membership's money when said membership is armed and excitable. :corn:




    I was a member years and years ago, but didn't renew because I thought it was a dumb outfit.
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  2. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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  3. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    New Yorker? Any bets it turns out to be real? Not from me.

    Buzzfeed, media matter, new yorker, infowars, Marvel?

    For fantasy, comic books are cooler because of the artwork. Well, not always.
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    But at least comics don't make any pretexts of being news, unlike some "news".
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  4. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    Once again, anything that goes against your worldview gets immediately dismissed as "fake news".
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  5. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Depends on the story and source, every time, case by case. NYT covering nuke power? Well, no vested interest, story not in line with predictable leftist dogma, use of authoritative, informed sources, story could be real news. NYT covering a story about homelessness, or illegals, or migrant americans? Check your wallet while you read it, someone's probably stealing your money while poisoning your mind against truth to distract you from connecting with reality.

    You saying you want to take a bet that it turns out to be a real story (i.e. that NRA might lose tax exempt status - heh, just like the So. Poverty Hate Center was supposedly in risk of losing theirs in a similar story months ago)? NY'er is a fantasy mag for pseudo intellectuals and sandal wearers mostly.

    [edit: I loved their William Goldman column back in the day. They were best when sticking to entertainment and pop culture and hotties. edit edit: Bah, I'm an idiot, was thinking of NY magazine, not NY'er, which should stick to fiction and prose where it excelled.]
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  6. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    On what ground would they be tax exempt in the first place?
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  7. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Yes, keep focusing on the NRA...
  9. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Whatever you posted is blocked here at work. Quick synopsis please?
  10. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    For the firewall challenged:
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  11. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    Because they're a Nonprofit Organization.
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  12. Tuckerfan

    Tuckerfan BMF Staff Member Moderator

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    Because they’re a group that represents enthusiasts, much in the same way that a car club represents car collectors.
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  13. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I'm not convinced that's really what they do to be honest. Seems to be a euphemism for representing manufacturers to be brutally honest.

    Car clubs don't tend to lobby politicians, advocate for policy decisions, pay campaign funding to candidates favourable to manufacturers or have revenue streams in the hundreds of millions per annum.
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  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Or betray the country to Russia after beating everyone over the head about how fucking "patriotic", they are for decades.
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  15. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Except that the NRA is a non-profit civil rights organization, and doesn't just represent a hobby.
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  16. GhostEcho

    GhostEcho Yojimbo

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    They are a tax-exempt for the same reason the ACLU is tax-exempt.
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  17. Faceman

    Faceman Negative Creep

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    They’re a cult church.
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    Actually, car clubs DO lobby politicians all the time. They fight to keep old cars from having to do things like pass modern emissions regulations. And they do support car makers because the car makers often continue to supply parts for collector cars.

    There are some differences between the two groups, to be sure, but when the NRA was founded, and up until about the 70s or so, they were more like a car club than they were different.
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  19. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Ok, point taken, but I'm not really seeing them as being akin.

    When the car industry is effectively using a single car club as a political front I'll be more convinced.
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  20. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Hey, like it or not all the amendments guarantee civil rights.
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  21. matthunter

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    I suppose there's enough wiggle room in the term "profit" to allow the top dogs at the NRA to get considerable kickbacks from the gun industry in return for shilling their products to the rank and file that it doesn't count legally. But whether that SHOULD be the case is up for debate.
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  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    A "civil right" that exists nowhere else except in FraidycatMurica. Oh, and a few developing nations such as Albania, Chad, Republic of Congo, Honduras, Micronesia, Namibia, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Philippines, Senegal, South Africa, Tanzania, and Yemen.

    "Hey, I'm proud to be a Murican. Just like them brown people whom I otherwise believe are subhuman, because Murica, right?"
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  23. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Which of your other basic human rights would you like to give up, G?
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  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I gave up my Second Amendment rights when I said "Oh, fuck no." Probably before you were born. :bergman:
  25. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    A corporate product that I have to go out and buy with my own money is a basic human right?

    Well, shit, let's bring back the insurance mandate then.

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  26. GhostEcho

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    Sure, if we can also mandate that everyone buy a gun or pay a tax penalty. I can agree to that compromise. :)
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  27. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    That wasn't the question. It was "which of your other basic human rights would you like to give up?"
    The right under discussion is the right of self-defense. The means by which you exercise that right is up to you. Stabby things, guns that go bang, or pugilism. Or whatever means you think best.
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  28. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Printing presses, books, telephones, and Internet routers are corporate products, too. :shrug:

    And it's use of the product that is the basic human right.
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  29. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I don't see "I gots gunz!" as a requirement to own them, and you can't convince me otherwise.
  30. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    BTW for those actually interested instead of only interested in throwing shit, the NRA (and the ACLU) are split into two different organizations, one of which, the NRA-ILA does lobbying, and the other of which, the NRA, does clubbier stuff. At least ostensibly. My read on this story is that the NRA side of things is doing Trump Foundation-like things. The NRA-ILA *should* remain unaffected, but I haven't finished reading the article.
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