The Orville [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Okay, so Bortus walks into the holodeck for the orgy and it looked like some of the ads for Sea Monkeys I can remember seeing as a kid.
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  3. Nova

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    the dying planet plot was a very Star Trek story that I can stand to see more of.
    The porn addiction thing was a fine B plot but I think it got more airtime than the other which...didn't work for me to well. Might be something better spread out as a growing problem over say 3 episodes. I did like the nuance of tying it into still resenting what was done to the child (who's growing fast aion't he?)

    Still, WAY better than the first episode.
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    This episode had way more laughs, but I felt the story was fairly weak and nothing we really haven't seen before.

    The season premiere was a better homage to Trek and, in my view, a much more entertaining story.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I liked the visuals for the star and the planet getting destroyed by the star. But..... the depth of the sea beds was way too deep. In reality, if the planet had similar geology to earth, you wouldn't be able see the sea beds going that deep. To get an idea, if earth was the size of a bowling ball, you wouldn't be able to feel the mountains or the sea beds.
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    Star Trek would definitely never do an episode about porn addiction.

    I assume programs like that would be fairly common and I assume that whenever someone is using the simulator it would lock behind them and not allow anyone else access unless the Captain overrode the lock.

    At least that was how it worked on TNG.

    So how did Klyden get in there while it was running?
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    That was some weird shit.

    But probably more realistic than Barclay's "I am the Goddess of Empathy" thing ...
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    Either Bortus failed to lock it or the holodeck recognizes family and let Klyden in. It would be a pain in the butt if a parent had to get the Captain every time a kid locked themselves in the holodeck and refused to come out.
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    Right, and imagine if someone left a message that they were going to commit suicide in the holodeck. You'd want some way to be able to get in there quickly, without having to wait for security or the captain or whoever to show up and unlock the door so you could save the person.
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  10. tafkats

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    I wonder if the rapid aging of Bortus and Klyden's son is intended as a parody of Alexander ...
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    moreover, wouldn't the system have pinged a security problem automatically as soon as it recognized an unauthorized program?
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    Bortus and Klyden, being a married couple, may have a shared password, or an override. Regarding the virus, it's entirely possible no one considered an environmental simulator program to cause those kinds of problems for the rest of the ship. I would imagine that such an oversight would be rectified quickly. Plus, I have no problems imagining a 25th century computer virus getting around 25th century antivirus watchdogs.
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    Is Alara gone for good? :(
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    Seems like it.
    Unlike Tasha Yar though, they're leaving her a back door to come back if she wants.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Hey, the villains were anti-vaxxers.
    Sweet.
    Fuck those people.
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    A pretty good episode. Robert Picardo was excellent as usual. Who played the guy angry over his sons suicide? He looked and sounded so familiar. And what was the significance of the caretakers stuff all being collected and him not responding to calls? Is it implied the angry couple offed him already?
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  17. Amaris

    Amaris Fuzzy Logic Generator

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    John Billingsley.


    Anyway:

    This episode gets an A+ this week. For me it hit all of the right buttons. Pathos, frustration and anger at family, wanting to be seen as an equal, feeling helpless and knowing you can be so much more, the danger element was exciting, and of course it's a blast to see Robert Picardo, John Billingsley, and so many other wonderful actors make their cameos.

    This show is just terrific, and I think this may be one of their best episodes yet, and for me that's saying a lot because I do love this show, and I feel this sense of hope and optimism that I'm not seeing in so many other sci-fi shows. I feel Seth, and everyone else involved, really struck the right tone, and I hope to see more of these in the future.


    Pitch perfect. A+. Can't wait until next week!
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    Hmm.

    So the Doctor from Enterprise had beef with the Doctor from Voyager?

    I wonder what other Trek cameos we'll get.
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    Well we're going to get these guys:

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    Amazing how similar they look to each other. :yes:
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  20. Dayton3

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    What was the significance of that anyway?
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    ...

    Okay. One of the running themes of the show was that when Captain Mercer would encounter something requiring massive strength, he'd ask Alara "Hey Alara, you want to open this jar of pickles for me?"
    It was in the very first episode, at the research facility (just after the banana ray), when they were running from the Krill. It was in quite a few episodes after that:

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  22. tafkats

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    I hope she comes back -- she's one of the only characters who's more than a parody.

    The XFinity description for Episode 5 says "a new crew member joins the ship," so at least the really annoying interim security chief isn't permanent.
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    Good episode.

    The interim chief? Glad he's not coming back even though I do like Patrick Warburton.

    Got to wonder how high the gravity actually is on Alara's planet. Her species, hell all life on that planet must be hella-strong to be as tall as they are. Even the trees must be super strong to get that high.

    The Union has gravity as evidenced obviously by the ships so why not already have something in place for people like Alara?

    The jar of pickles was a nice touch. I hope we see it behind Mercer's desk every episode.

    And next time Malloy should just move the shuttle a few feet over.
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    I thought of the "move the shuttle" thing too

    Billingsley was fantastic, IMO.

    Well done episode all around - shows what you can do with a minimum of dick jokes and no unnecessary B plot.
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    Well, they lost the best character and the best running joke. :( The jar of pickles was nice though.
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    I don't think you can say she was the best character.

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    Why does it seem that every science fiction series has to do a variation of "Enemy Mine"?
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    Possibly because the notion of "those we consider our enemy are potentially just folk like us" is one that humans seem to need reminding of on a disturbingly regular basis?
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    I hate it. Has it ever occurred to anyone that just maybe "our enemy" became "our enemy" for very good reasons? And no I didn't like this story concept even when it was done regarding American and Japanese soldiers in the Pacific in World War Two.
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    Probably because there ain't much originality left in Hollywood. The Orville is very well-executed and quite entertaining, but its stories aren't really breaking any new ground.

    Also, @Zombie called it. Well done, sir! :techman:

    (Which actually kind of proves my point.)
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