The Red Room Rules Need To Be Changed

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    To outlaw a poster ALTERING what another person has posted and then using that altered post in a quote.

    I'm not talking about editing for length. I'm talking about cutting out whole sections of material and adding something they (the quoter) have written on their own.

    ed629 Faceman, and IIRC even gul have done it.

    What purpose does it serve? How does it facilitate or encourage discussion? What does it add to the board?

    EVERY other discussion board I know of makes doing that a bannable offense and they enforce it.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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  3. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    You're guilty of doing that as well.

    Loser.
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  4. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oooh, Dayton's getting cranky.
    Get his pacifier back from the dog.
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  5. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I sense a conflict of interest here, why do you keep editing your posts after they are quoted? By your own reasoning, that makes you the liar.

    I think Dayton is requesting that his editing privileges be revoked.
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  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    No flaming in the Helpdesk. For most boards, that's a bannable offense.
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  8. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    In case Dayton tries to edit that post, at the very least he should receive some time off to cool down.

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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It's another form of trolling and, because it's the Red Room, it's allowed.

    If you don't like it, I'd suggest restricting your posts to the other, more moderated rooms.
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  11. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    I'll trade my editing privileges for people here not being allowed to alter posts.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Nope, we don't create special user classes with different rules.
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  13. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    Are there other rooms where I can post on controversial political and/or social topics?
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    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    Dayton may have a point.


    But, in order for me to back it, can he please produce evidence that his quotes have been altered?
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    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    How is this not an advocation of censorship Dayton, and how is this proof that if you were ever elected to office you wouldn't be an oppressive dictator?
  16. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    Why do you and others bring up my wanting to run for office when I gave up that ambition a long time ago and said so here?
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    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    http://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/what-is-the-praxis.107537/

    ed629 in post #27 rewrites my post in #26 to including something about "autism".

    I never once posted anything about "autism" in the thread.

    Evidence enough for you El Chup?
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    Shirogayne Trolling No Jutsu Formerly Important

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    We've allowed for political threads to be opened in the Green room, but hardly anyone posted in there.

    And to make it unanimous, no, we aren't changing rules to accommodate thin skin.
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  19. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    Is it really "thin skin" to not want your posts deliberately altered to say something they did not say?

    And if trolling is such a great thing in the Red Room that is tolerated, why can't I start 20 threads insulting other members?
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Then it becomes spam.
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  21. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Were you laboring under the misconception that you're the only one?

    The very fact that you feel the need to do this speaks for itself.
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    What's the difference?
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    No?
    Aw, it would have been a great just-before-the-credits-scene of me getting into the squad car, and giving Dayton a "this isn't over", death stare as it pulls away.
  24. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    I don't give a damn about the other members here. Why should I? What are they to me?
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  25. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well, that's conductive to being part of a community.
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  26. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Wonderful, Loving Husband & Father

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    My fellow Wordforge members have seldom made any effort to endear themselves to me.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Let's be clear. None of your posts have ever been altered by anybody other than you. This statement you've made is very misleading. Have people attributed statements to you that you didn't make? Perhaps. But so what. You are free to call that person a liar.
    Has somebody said that you can't? Seems to me you even did that not too long ago. You might get in some trouble for spamming. We aren't keen on the first page being filled with threads all started by a single poster and all roughly equivalent in topic. But note how that isn't about trolling when it becomes a problem.
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  28. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    So...the narrative in your head is of you frolicking into WF 10 years ago with a picnic basket full of treats for everyone, a song in your heart, and we all just beat you up with billy clubs?

    Okay, that's over the top, but do you really feel like a victim?
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  29. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Trolling No Jutsu Formerly Important

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    The point is there are more people in the world besides you and you aren't the only one that's been insulted in the history of the board. WF has never taken pride in eating their own like other similar boards, but with the exception of the rep change we don't hold people's hands to coddle stupid behavior.

    If you don't give a damn about anyone here, leave. Life is too short to be miserable least of all on boards you post at and take daily abuse from by choice. But we're not creating Enterpriser rules to accommodate anyone.
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  30. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Trolling No Jutsu Formerly Important

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    Dayton is referring to when one quotes a thread,then edits that quoted part, like so
    Obviously someone can click the arrow hyperlink to what he actually said. Which,as mentioned, is allowed in the RR because trolling is allowed. Nor is Dayton the first person to have this done to.
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