The TNG writers actually DOWNgraded the tech as they went!

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  1. Diacanu

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    I'm watching "where silence has lease", on BBCAmerica, and Data actually had instant mental wi-fi access to the ship's computer.
    He mind-Googles for a phenomenon like Nagilum's void, and turns up nothing.

    In later episodes, they make a big fucking deal that his quarters have a special console that can withstand his super-speed typing and reading speed.

    Um, he doesn't need to use his hands and eyes, he's got mind-Google!!
    Doy!!

    Then later on, when we get to "Best Of Both Worlds", he can seemingly only mind-hack the computer with hard plugs sticking into his brain.

    Where'd the wi-fi go!?!?

    Did he burn out his cellular modem?

    Nope, cuz in "Masks", he's linked to the transformation program without a plug, because his reactions affect the simulation.
    *Bling* wi-fi is back!
    Then it goes away again.

    There's a bunch of examples of downgrading like this.
    This is just the one that jumped out at me today.
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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, that's right, Doctor Soong called him via a transmission.
    And Borg Queen turned on his emotion chip with a wireless signal.

    Then the writers forgot his wi-fi powers again.
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    Didn't they set a galactic warp speed limit of warp 5 due to warp nacelle emissions not meeting the standards set by the Obama administration 300 years prior?
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    Technically they only established a speed limit in that one area because even in the future no one cares about the environment.
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    I thought the eco-terrorists won a total victory, with the enterprise having to get special permission to go faster than the nx-01 for the rest of the series.
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    Unless I am remembering the wrong episode, this is the one where they were trying to show subspace weakening and rifts forming where at the end the woman flies a ship to a weak point and overloads the warp core causing a rift to open up proving their scientific research? At the end of that episode the enterprise submitted the report and incident to starfleet regarding the area. At the end they received Starfleet's reply that they would limit warp speed through that area, nd continue research.Warf said the klingons would most likely abide, but it was up in the air for other races not under starfleet.

    The whole episode was about pointing out the problems of half assing environmental issues, but it made no actual sense given the technology and vastness of space. Really, if these rifts were opening up one would think the real danger areas would be in the solar system of warp capable species and not some shipping lane. Vulcan would have been far beyond most places given they were warp capable much earlier than earth. I would think that sort of environmental damage to space would have been evident there where they started their warp trip along paths leading to warp capable worlds.
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    I thought it was originally supposed to be limited to this one area where space was "special" but the eco-terrorist caused a rift outside special space. Because I remember picard being given special permission to break the speed limit several eps later.
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    Clearly they used higher than warp 6 speeds anyway and the episode was forgotten.

    If I remember right she used a warp core breach to open up the rift. However, I think it was one of the movies where they used a warp core explosion to seal up a rift. There was something about the warp core dragging the tear open across space so they ejected it and blew it up which somehow blowing up a warp core made the hole heal itself.
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    Ill get back to it in a few months, but im pretty sure they stuck to it for the rest of TNG, which was about the entire last season iirc.
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    They might have because I have no concept of the timeline involving random episodes in the series which have no bearing on the overall history. Yes, I know this had bearing, but it would have been a small technical point, and the only episodes I know were from the last seasons involved pickard destroying large parts of the universe.
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    I can't remember if the Enterprise stuck to Warp 5 for the rest of the series, but if they did, there was some serious scale-fudging going on. Even on the TNG scale, Warp 5 is 213c, which means Earth to Alpha Centauri would take a week.

    Yeah, I guess you could argue that they just didn't show the days upon days of Worf meditating, Picard practicing his flute, Troi and Crusher doing alien martial arts, Riker making omelets and Data trying to train his cat, but come on ... this was Season 7 TNG. They would have shown every goddamn minute of it.
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    I don't think it was ever onscreen canon, but I could swear one of the Okuda sourcebooks said Voyager era ships made an improvement that solved the subspace damage problem.
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    Was the Voyager nacelles going up and down supposed to have something to do with it, or was that just a fanon theory?
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    Fanon theory.

    Else, the Ent-E would have to have them too.
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    Not onscreen, so take it for what it's worth, but Memory Alpha cites Star Trek Encyclopedia, which is licensed and endorsed by Paramount/CBS.

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    Y'know, I never took that scene in Silence as Data accessing the ship's computer but his own internal database, and they needed some way of showing that the amount of info he was looking through was vast via the head-tilt.

    It'd kinda make sense for Data to store a local copy of Fed records for Away Missions, even if some of it is just summaries of the full dataset.

    Didn't a VOY ep put a "quad" size figure on the whole of Voyager's database?
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    So this android has bluetooth?

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    It was only in sectors that had that issue!