Trouble in America

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, May 27, 2020.

  1. Zombie

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    Watching that it seems that was on purpose and two cars were involved. They were waiting for the cop to be in the road and the silver car blocked his path. I am wondering if that was an ambush.
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  4. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    this is what you are going to get. It is going to get worse with Trump making threats. That is just going to bring more prepared people out and get more violent.
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  5. Zombie

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    I think it was.

    Here's another one.

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    That is going to start happening more and more as the violence escalates. It is happening to protestors also with what seems to be trucks driving into crowds in the streets.

    That first video was certainly a stalking of the cops. Those cars were not cruising through the streets. They waited for him to be in the street and that is when they jumped.

    More and more of these things are going to happen if things keep escalating. You have cars everywhere in america, and you have huge ones too. It becomes like having a gun when you are angry. You have angry people who have vehicle who are going to use it against police when they do not have a gun. Every incident of harm and brutalization is going to spark more of that.

    You need to start cooling things off and our present leadership is not that way. It is not just trump.

    I used to have to deal with hyped up people who were playing paintball and that lead to fights. You don't go in and start arguing with them in an antagonizing way. You do not insult them or threaten them. That just makes things worse. You do not challenge hot headed people to a pissing contest because it leads to a fight.

    You have too many of these cops who are just ready to thump heads and get into the fight.
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    So trump threatening everyone seems to have worked as expected.

    If you think Trump is not the most miserable of failures as president you are clearly rooting for the trouble.
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    He needs to be careful - the last time he took on a corrupt, evil political leader he got his hand chopped off and hit by lightning, then fell out of a window.
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  11. oldfella1962

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    it is! The big red crosses are clearly visible. But here's how some people will spin it: "GET SOME!" :shakefist:

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    Depends on what you mean by "in a way like this". Yes if you're using it as an offensive weapon. In other words disguising as a medical helicopter to shoot and otherwise attack the enemy in a tactical situation is very much against the rules.
    But do we know why the helicopter was there? Do we know their mission or directives? Were they just harassing people or trying to disperse for some reason? We just don't know. :shrug:
    Yes it gets windy near a helicopter and they are pretty loud. That said I don't know why they used a medical bird, but maybe it was the only aviation asset they had at the time.
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    okay, how does looting and burning down buildings in 2020 - in these riots - solve anything? So burning down a black owned barbershop fights racism how exactly? Walk me through this.
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    What sort of stupid scenario are you talking about? I have made no such claim about a black barber shop. Reading comprehension is important. I am not going off on your silly little escapade. Try @garamet. She is gullible, soft in the head, and prone to being derailed easily. I think she is also more your speed. However, if you wish to actually rebutt my argument I have left it quoted for you.
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    Depends on the circumstances.

    If you two-handed choked someone in a fight and the autopsy shows that there is bruising and other indications of traumatic asphyxiation, it would be IMO beyond a reasonable doubt that you formed the intent to kill.

    If you were involved in some sort of erotic sex-play, you had no reason to kill your partner, you used a scarf and your version of events is that your partner was joking about not being able to breathe, and the autopsy doesn't show signs that give the lie to your account it was an accident, then no, I would not think that you were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Based on what is known about this case so far, the county's autopsy did not find evidence of trauma to suggest that Chauvin's force directly caused the choking. That finding creates reasonable doubt IMO that Chauvin at any point said to himself, "I want this MF to die." People's mileage will vary. They may credit the family autopsy more that does find evidence of trauma, or they may think anyone who did what Chauvin did clearly wanted to kill Floyd, or they may be not concerned about the legal technicalities and niceties.
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    WF and social media are not a jury.
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    Neveer said they were. But the discussion here has been about what might/should happen in court.
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  18. Marso

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    Obviously people have no depth perception. Take a closer look at the pic. Nice try on the part of the photographer, however. :dayton:
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    Officer shot while trying to disperse protesters
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-police-officer-shot-head/

  20. Forbin

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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I heard about this after the fact. Is it true that the President had Military Police (legal in the Federal District) move in with tear gas to break up a peaceful protest so the President could get a photo-op?

    If true, I'm literally speechless.
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    I've read several "eye witness" accounts of people who were there. So, ..., it appears to be true.
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    No charges will be filed against Omaha bar owner who fatally shot protester, Don Kleine says


    What is wrong with these people? The guy warns everyone that he has a gun and they try and jump him anyway? What a moron.
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    Just understand that the X most important things in Trump's life are essentially all Donald J Trump, for all values of X, and it becomes just another day in the life.
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  26. We Are Borg

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    Mods, please change the title of this thread to:

    Trouble in America

    'K thanks bye.
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  27. NAHTMMM

    NAHTMMM Christian Neutral Good (bad at it)

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    Here we go

  28. steve2^4

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    @T.R has the ability to change the title of her thread, but I think she's an asshole so thanks for the thought.
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    Darwin is smiling down upon the late, great Mr. Scurlock. On a related note some equally dumb loser tried looting a GUN STORE and hilarity ensued. Hey, bull and horns and all that!
  30. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    it's adorable that you think the "democratic levers" are actually functional...
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