Trouble in America

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  1. NAHTMMM

    NAHTMMM Christian Neutral Good (bad at it)

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    Yeah, the Onion should have invented a pretzel place for that one.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final most essential command.
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  3. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Those cops don't look like they diet on donuts.But nice job of trying to piss them off all the same.
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    Jenee No Longer Affiliated With ABBA

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    They don't look pissed off, either.
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    T.R Don't Care

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    No real surprise here.....
    New psychology research finds extreme protest actions reduce popular support for social movements

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  6. Quest

    Quest Liberty and Justice Staff Member Administrator

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    Black Chicagoans Being Harassed In Some Latino Neighborhoods, Officials Say: ‘We Are In This Struggle Together’

    Little Village neighbors protected businesses after people looted shops. But a few Latino men were indiscriminately targeting Black people, Ald. Rodriguez said.

    Jun 2, 2020 10:08AM CDT

    LITTLE VILLAGE — Latino leaders are calling for unity after Black Chicagoans have been harassed and had bricks thrown at their cars in some Latino neighborhoods.

    On Sunday afternoon, Little Village neighbors came together to protect 26th Street businesses after people looted shops. Ald. Michael Rodriguez (22nd) said as the night went on, a few Latino men became “antagonistic” and were indiscriminately targeting Black people driving through the neighborhood.

    In a video posted to Facebook, four Black women and a child driving through Little Village near Kedzie Avenue and Cermak Road Sunday had their car hit three times with bat as men stood in the street. A car was burning in the background.

    In another video posted to Twitter, Latino men stood at the corner of Kedzie and Cermak, some with baseball bats, throwing items at cars as the drove by. Those items included bricks, Rodriguez said. A car was burning and other drivers attempted to dodge items launched in their direction.

    “So these guys tried to come rob around the area,” a woman says in the video.

    On Monday evening, Rodriguez said he witnessed a young Black couple driving on Kedzie go through a “gauntlet” with people throwing things at their car. The Black couple were in Little Village to patronize a local business, he said.

    “It was terrible. They looked so frightened,” he said.

    According to leaders in the area, some of the Latino men guarding Little Village are members of the Latin Kings street gang.

    In suburban Cicero, video Monday showed dozens of people looting the El Patron liquor store, according to CBS 2.One man believed to be looting the store was caught by police with a gun. Two bystanders were shot and killed in another incident at 50th Avenue and Cermak Road.

    In a Facebook Live video shot at 50th and Cermak in Cicero at 7 p.m. Monday, groups of people with bats and metal pipes were gathering near the intersection.

    “Non-Black, Latinx gangs [are] armed with bats, machetes,” said Luz Chavez, who shot the video. “Any car that passes by with Black people in it, they are yelling at it and throwing s—,” she said.

    Chavez, founder of online magazine Gozamos, urged Black people to “stay out of Cicero.”

    About four minutes into the video, gunfire goes off. It’s unclear who is shot.

    “Someone just got shot,” Chavez said, as dozens of people rush down the block. “Now there’s a bunch of armed people there.”

    Chavez then interviews a Dominican woman who lives in the neighborhood as police sirens blare.

    “I’m sorry this is happening,” Chavez said to the woman.

    What started as a protest against police brutality and the loss of George Floyd’s life in Minneapolis has been lost, Rodriguez said.

    “The Latinx community needs to support our African American brothers and sisters. If any of our community are out of line, we need to call it out,” Rodriguez said.

    Ald. Raymond Lopez (15th), who represents parts of Back of the Yards and West Englewood, said some of the Black people being targeted live in the Latinx neighborhoods people are protecting.

    “Don’t act like you’re checking ID’s to see who lives where when ‘defending our hood,'” Lopez said.

    Ald. Byron Sigcho-Lopez (25th), who represents Pilsen, said he’s also received reports of Black neighbors being harassed.

    “We love our Black residents, we love our Black community,” he wrote on Facebook. “…We will not tolerate…[harassment] of our Black neighbors.”

    “…We [must] stand up together to the atrocity that we see. And harassment of our Black neighbors is an atrocity as well.”

    Pastor Matt DeMateo with New Life Centers said neighbors organizing in Little Village want to protect businesses, not hurt Black Chicagoans.

    After hearing Black Chicagoans were being harassed, outreach workers were on the street telling folks they can protect businesses without harming Black Chicagoans, Pastor Matt DeMateo with New Life Centers said.

    “This isn’t an anti-Black movement,” he said.

    “We are fighting for peace at all levels. We are fighting a pandemic. We are fighting the violence in our community. We are fighting now the challenges of everything that happened in the last week,” he said.

    The targeted harassment of Black people people driving through Latino neighborhoods is “unacceptable,” he said.

    “We stand with our Black brothers and sisters…We are in this struggle together,” he said.
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    This seems like a pretty big move daring Trump to attack those protestors again.

    Also the update on the tear gas statement now seems to be that they are arguing a pedantic point that they say they didn't use tear gas. They only deployed pepper spray and smoke canisters simultaneously while firing flashbangs into the crowd. :bergman:
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    Whelp, my town decided to hook their racist dog whistle up to an air raid siren today. The other day, some assgasket in a local group posted (a now-deleted) comment that said something along the lines of, "My cousin's sister's husband" (yes, it WAS that abstract, if not more so) "works at the metro Nashville police force and he saw a list of places people were coming to loot and <nearby town> and <my town> were on the list!" Followed by the usual warnings about folks needing to have their guns ready, etc.

    The thing was so blatantly a hoax that I just laughed at it. The date that the looting was supposed to happen was the day before the message was posted, and not only had no looting happened, but I know from following some of the local leaders in town that there wasn't even a protest scheduled. The responses that I saw were a mixture of "it's not happening" and "I snuggle up to my shotgun every night, I ain't worried."

    Today, however, there's any number of posts in the groups that are basically people shouting, "The n-words are coming! The n-words are coming!" That's bad enough, but even worse, despite saying that there's been no one who's applied for a permit and that no one in the community who might want to hold a protest has done anything other than denying that they're planning on protesting, the city went ahead and deployed all the police around the town square and have cordoned the area off. You know, "just in case." For fuck's sake. If I had a car, I'd drive around there blasting NWA out the radio.
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  10. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf Sir, I must protest! I am NOT a dairy man!

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    Teacher, I didn't give Billy the black eye, I just punched him in the gut, sat on his face, and then farted.
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    it just keeps getting weirder! Has a state ever filed a formal complaint against one of their own cities police departments? Who's writing this script?
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    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    that's from 2008, in Toronto at the G20
    they burned their own cars then, too.

    a first class constable makes over $100K, so yeah... they are very well fed
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  13. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Then it's gotten better since I got out of it. I went to the Northeast Alabama Law Enforcement Academy for 10 weeks in 1993. When I got out of it, they were up to 12-14 weeks depending on the Academy. Birmingham, Shelby County Sheriff's Office, and Montgomery are unique in that they have their own, in-house academies. Birmingham doesn't admit outsiders, while Shelby County and Montgomery do.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    use a bullhorn and rap the NWA lyrics yourself! As for "snuggling up to your shotgun" it's not as cozy and comforting as it sounds.
    A few times in Korea during field exercises we had locals AKA "slicky boys" infiltrating our AO and stealing things to include M-16's! :shock: Thus we had to put our M-16's in our sleeping bags all night.
    Not much violent crime in Korea but they make up for it in other ways that's for sure.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    so you got nothin' but snark - fucking figures.
    really? Please provide proof that I had ever advocated shooting somebody to protect property. :waiting: Oh that's right, I never did. Protecting life and limb? Yes it's true I have no problem with self defense by any means necessary - but not protecting property. I would suggest you get your fucking facts straight, but you don't even know what that means so why bother?
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    The same steps MLK gave his famous speech from...
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    Same here. I'm in a little 3k population town, and the groups are like, "OMG! I SAW A ROAD BLOCKED OFF! I SAW A ROAD BLOCKED OFF!!! THEY'RE COMING!" (...to widen it as it turns out), followed by a shit ton of "Locked and loaded" posts. I'm literally surrounded by idiots.
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  18. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    i think the PM kind of speaks for a lot of us looking at the US right now... at least for those first 20 seconds



    best phrasing of a question, ever
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  19. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    In my little town today. Suburban white kids rallied at the high school and marched about a mile to the town library, chanting "I can't breath."


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    Spaceturkey you can't spell hatred without "red hat"

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    empathy
    noun

    em·pa·thy | \ ˈem-pə-thē \
    Definition of empathy


    1: the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner
    also : the capacity for this
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    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    They're in the road. Why isn't anyone doing their patriotic duty and running them down? :mad:
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    Shirogayne The Gay Collective(tm) Formerly Important

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    Minneapolis community fills sidewalk with groceries after riots destroy stores

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    I love that the state AG apparently gave them winking approval to do it by saying that if the mayor chose to take it down they would have no choice but to pay a $25k fine, which crowdfunding raised in hours.
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    It's weird how often people with this mentality completely miss the point or underestimate how badly these things hurt their cause.
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    After what they've been seeing on T.V for the last three days, who can blame them :shrug:
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