Trumpian slash-and-burn/salt the fields of the enemies thread

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    There are numerous posts here about the mining interests destroying sacred Native lands, drilling in Alaska no matter how much of the environment it destroys (or perhaps, in a last-ditch fuck-you effort, BECAUSE it destroys places this asshole has never visited and doesn't know or care about), etc., etc., et FUCK YOU TRUMP, et cetera.

    Oh, and then there are the "WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT ANYONE WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR ME/AND THOSE WHO DID BUT BECAUSE IVANKA SAYS THE POOR DON'T MATTER IMMA GO WITH HER SUPERIOR JUDGMENT" reports. Can we put them all in one place (unless @Ancalagon feels butt-hurt)?

    Here's a starter: An "activist judge" blocked the SOB from ripping food stamps away from 700,000 people, but that doesn't negate the fact that he tried: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-s...Sd-Yad0sxUitCky4oHZJ1b2sLPkSaKPglTgZpJ6pkraiw
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  2. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Can't be bothered to go get links but...

    Mnuchin is being a dick with some CARES Act oney

    Interior is apparently rushing approval on some ANWAR leases

    DOJ is trying to execute as many as possible before !/20/21
    And also, for some stupid reason, rushing approval to bring back firing squds

    Just off the top of my head...
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  3. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    and then there's this:

    Trump officials are rushing to hand over Oak Flat in Arizona to Resolution Copper by next month, a full year ahead of schedule—while they still can.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3g...d-over-sacred-apache-land-to-a-mining-company

    President Donald Trump’s administration has sped up a process that will hand over the rights to a sacred Apache Indigenous area outside of Phoenix, Arizona, to a mining company by next month—a full year ahead of schedule.

    The U.S. Department of Agriculture plans to release its official environmental impact statement that will give the go-ahead to transfer Oak Flat in the Tonto National Forest to the mining company Resolution Copper, a joint venture by mining giants Rio Tinto and BHP, a year before its planned December 2021 date.

    The announcement came just days after the Trump administration issued an executive order that declared the U.S. dependence on China for “critical minerals” a national emergency and vowed to “cut down on unnecessary delays in permitting actions.”
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  4. Raoul the Red Shirt

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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  7. MikeH92467

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    I'd love to see what would happen if his veto got overridden... :evilpop:
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  8. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Listen here, Jack

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  9. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    :shep: it's "above my paygrade" as a military alumnus, but I think this would be considered a suboptimal decision. :unsure: This isn't cutting off your nose to spite your face, it's cutting off your head to spite your face IMHO.
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  10. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    It’s childish and selfish. Just like everything he has said, done, and behaved in the last 4years. Do you see that now?
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  11. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    From a practical, humane standpoint if it takes 43 minutes for a botched "lethal injection" to kill somebody :jayzus: why not just take .043 seconds to put a 12 gauge slug through the lower hemisphere of their brain? Granted this is assuming you believe in the death penalty to begin with, of course.
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  12. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    From a practical humane aspect, state executions are a costly medieval practice. There is no societal benefit.
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  13. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    that's why I said "assuming you support the death penalty". If you don't, I guess it wouldn't matter how you carry it out. But if the death penalty is still in effect, you might as well carry it with maximum efficiency and the least physical pain. They don't have to be costly - deer slugs, ear plugs and plastic tarp are very inexpensive.
  14. Jenee

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    And the rest of @steve2^4’s point, what is the societal benefit?
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    Purely from a practical, humane standpoint:

    1. It is hard to botch a lethal injection in terms of the actual procedure. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/botched-executions has a number of botched executions, and from my skim of it almost all the lethal injection botches are due to the medical team's difficulty in finding a useable vein.

    2. The length of time for the lethal injection is less an issue than the amount of pain the person feels. In a handful of cases, yes, the person has weird body chemistry or the officials screw up the chemicals. But generally, lethal injection is painless. Being shot with bullets is not.

    3. This would be comparing the best case scenario for firing squad (hit to the brain and nearly-instantaneous death) to one of the worst cases for lethal injection.

    4. Let's not pretend that Trump is putting firing squads back on the table for humane reasons. He is doing it because it appeals to his sensibility and that of his base that there should be pain for those who are executed.
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    I have no idea! I'm just addressing the "nuts & bolts" of killing somebody efficiently & painlessly. I am not among those people that think an execution should be painful. Firing squads as they are structured (shooting in the chest) leave room for error. Point blank to the back of the head with a high-octane firearm is a guaranteed quick "lights out". Being shot with bullets/slugs in the right spot with the victim's head completely stable/restrained is no doubt about it painless and foolproof. It's a no brainer!
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    Should I? :thinking:
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  18. K.

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    Go for it!

    Frankly, I would like to hear your point of view. Because I suddenly find myself in agreement with @oldfella1962 on this one specific issue, and that probably means I am missing a huge point.
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  19. MikeH92467

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    No, I'm just restraining myself from taking a gratuitous cheap shot (ahem) and really have no interest in discussing this topic. :clyde:
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  20. Tererun

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    It is one of the more succesful ways of killing yourself given most do not seem to survive and be brought back after doing it properly. I would think it would be more efficient and better with one of those things they use to punch a hole in a cows head rather than a bullet from a firing squad a distance back. A firing squad would leave room for a badly placed bullet that does not travel properly through the skull. If you put someone in a device that holds their head still and you have a pneumatic piston (or three) go through their skull without changing direction like a bullet might that would seem to be a better way than some dudes standing at a distance with guns.

    Personally I cannot understand the whole idea we cannot find the right combination of drugs to send someone off. I am pretty sure shit ton of morphine will do just fine. Is there an opiod shortage I should know about? I am pretty sure we could use something like fentanyl. We might even find some of these dudes might forget their appeals and just take the last great high.
  21. jack

    jack Slave To The Rhythm

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    At this point capital punishment isn't about the punishment. It's about that capital.

    It's a zero sum game.
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    "suboptimal decision" :lol:

    IOW: a level of stupidity that only a PINO like Donald Trump would think is actually a good thing to do!
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    Or--and hear me out on this--we don't murder people in prison. :shrug:
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    All executions should be done using the Brazen Bull. I mean, if we're going to be backward, vengeance-driven barbarians, let's do it fucking right!
  27. K.

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    Absolutely. Though especially from the point of view of opposing the death penalty, I wonder whether the obsession with humane killing methods isn't helping us cloak the inhumanity of the practice. The victim hardly gains by exchanging 2 seconds of immense pain for 45 minutes of a slow death, do they? And everyone goes home feeling a little bit less like the murderers they are, except for the murdered of course.
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    Remember the old saw, "Surgeons get to bury their mistakes"? If you can quickly kill someone who's been convicted of a crime, you don't have to address the issues of if the conviction was justified. Or if there was something that society could have done to prevent the person from being a murderer.
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