Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge that you’re traitorous assholes?

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  1. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    Negative. I stated my prediction of what I think the Democrats are trying to accomplish. I didn't state that I was afraid of that prediction. Quite the contrary, I welcome the hilarity that will ensue when they begin their efforts.
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  2. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    Bullshit. But, whatever, I'm not Tamar and I'm not going to comb through the thousands of wordforge posts trying to find the things you know you've said.

    But, the rest of us know. We know you are are afraid. We know you hate. We know you have been suckered into believing the nonsense trump has been spewing.

    If you weren't afraid and if you didn't hate, you would have realized trump was a fraud and would have denounced him long ago.
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    interesting. So you (or the wordforge court of public opinion) are the judge of why people vote for a particular candidate?
    The whole time I though we voted using the "secret ballot" principle but you have supernatural mind-reading ability! Who knew? :shrug:
    :doh: wait....you knew because you have mind reading capability. You should take your act on the road!
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  4. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    Again, you're diving into intentionally stupid territory.

    Tell us, do you still support trump?
  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    in what fashion? In a week he's ass out of a job in case you haven't been following the news. In general I still support him until a jury of his peers convicts him - in which case I will not support his attempts to overturn the trial results. No, I will not contribute to his legal defense fund if things progress that far.
  6. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    Do you support his assertions that his political opponents (Democrats) were intent on destroying him?
    Do you support his assertions that the FBI was intent on destroying him?
    Do you support his assertions that the media was intent on destroying him?
    Do you support his assertions that all immigrants from "shithole countries" were murderers and rapists?

    In other words, do you realize trump is a fraud and intentionally encourage hate, fear, and violence?
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    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    1) yes
    2) probably not. They have enough problems of their own - their plate is full
    3) hell yes! The media leans left so whose side do you think they'll be on?
    4) no

    as for the last question it's ridiculous. You are positing that people wanting you to fail - and expressing said views consistently - means that you will encourage hate, fear & violence. Imagine this Jenee - your neighbors don't like you, and even put up signs saying "we hate Jenee". They have a bullhorn and yell "we hate Jenee" all day long.
    One morning you wake up and your car is trashed. You call the police and the police ignore it because your neighbors told them that Jenee is full of hate, fear and violence because she doesn't like us.
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  8. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    How the fuck are you going to compare me to the POTUS?

    Donald trump intentionally ran for political office.
    trump intentionally spouted political idiot ideas intentionally to radicalize a group of people.
    trump intentionally continued to fan those flames
    trump intentionally called anyone who opposed the ideas liars
    trump intentionally undermined any news source that attempted to expose his lies
    trump intentionally praised news sources that reported his lies as facts.
    trump intentionally furthered the divide in the country by praising one group and demonizing another.

    So, you can't compare me, a private citizen, to trump. He is not a private citizen. He is ... a fucked up politician who had a platform that allowed his fucked up ideas to be publicized.
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  10. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Or as The Onion repeatedly puts it:

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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Fucking dirty hippie!
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  13. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Give me a fucking break. :facepalm:

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  14. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Just when you think Trumpers can't get more disgusting. :mad:

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    We'll see how brave you are when us ChiCom fifth columnists show up to drag you to a re-education camp. I'd wear your brown pants, son.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Yeah, but also don't they in theory follow religious dietary requirements for other inmates?

    I know in practice it's less likely than the theory.
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  17. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    QTards may act like it's their religion, but I don't think it officially is.
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    It wouldn't surprise me, at all, if a bunch of Republican Congresscritters deliberately didn't wear masks in the hopes that enough older Dems die that they would be left with a majority in the House and/or Senate.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Staten Island. Nuff said.
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    bad move! That is no better than Maxine Waters encouraging people to get in the face of conservatives. Two wrongs don't make a right! *

    * but three rights make a left!
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    That twerp was on MSNBC making noises about how Trump was to blame for the insurrection. Garret Haake noted with a straight face that the congressman had shown a remarkable lack of self-reflection. :brood:
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  26. tafkats

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    Even that is a false equivalency, since "get in their face" and "threaten them" are markedly different things.
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  27. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Lightly threaten?

    Wave a fluffy duster at them?

    Throw bags of fairy dust around?
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    Here’s a disturbing thread for you.

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    Whataboutism is a tactic to deflect or derail a discussion by bringing up something unrelated to the discussion in order to accuse someone of or imply that they are guilty of hypocrisy. So no, I would not say this is that.

    A straw man is when someone makes up a weak arguiment, attributes it to their opponent and then defeats it in an attempt to show that their opponent's argument is weak. So this is not that either.

    What you presumably meant to say is it's a non sequitur, or an instance where one thing does not follow the other. But Jenee has now elaborated on how the two points are connected. So even if for discussion's sake she is wrong about the underlying point, it doesn't fall into that logical fallacy either.
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