Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by El Chup, May 26, 2018.
You don't think that Trump's resort might be a security risk?
Lots more at the link.
this turn of events warrants it's own thread.
Seconded. Nothing at all to do with Mueller, the investigation he successfully concluded, or any of the spinoff cases still pending.
Merged these posts with the "Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge your leader is a joke?" thread because this definitely fits the "joke" theme.
Trump threatened to cancel the 2020 elections yesterday. Nobody seems to care very much.
Holy fuck that passed by with barely a whimper.
The idea of him holding on after his term isn't quite as far fetched as people assume it seems.
Generic link is generic. Got one to the story itself?
EDIT: Ok looks like he re-tweeted something by Jerry Falwell Jr.
Interestingly, there's a story out today claiming Michael Cohen helped Falwell destroy some compromising photos (but held on to one) of him and his wife getting jiggy with a 21-year old poolboy who they've subsequently helped set up in business. This being just prior to Falwell publically endorsing Trump's "Christian credentials" among Evangelicals...
Trump Suggests a 6-Year First Term as he Retweets Jerry Falwell Jr.’s Message
Is anyone particularly shocked that he wants to suspend elections or that he's been lying about his worth(lessness)?
There are, I'm sure, people who have been calling him an incompetent narcissistic fraud and a threat to the free world since.....oh at least 2016.
Trump has said nothing about suspending elections.
He said it, and I am sure it crossed his mind, but that would go down faster than a boeing max.
I'd be very cautious about relying on old norms and assumptions being reliable in this day and age, I really would.
Trump has shown just how fragile those conventions are, not to mention the legendary "checks and balances" which have long been the supposed safeguards against the dangers of a truly corrupt government. I posted my link earlier not to support the assertion he made the claim but to give a flavour of just how feasible it might actually be for him to garner support in spite of all of those measures.
This is not the world we knew even a few years ago.
He wants to skip elections in 2020 and push them back to 2022. How is that not suspending elections?
I remember he said something about extending his term by two years. But I didn't take that to mean he was talking about suspending elections. For that matter I didn't take it seriously anyway. I'm sure he knows that a presidents term cannot be simply extended even if Congress and the people wanted to.
You aren't getting it. He doesn't care what can or can't be done.
He's the sort of person who'll just do it anyway. You of all people should know history is awash with instances of people who simply ignored the rules and changed them to suit. You also should know how readily that can be done when they have sufficient support.
There is not the least possible way that President Donald Trump can avoid having a presidential election in 2020. If he loses then at 12 noon on January 20th, 2021, his PIN that opens the nuclear launch code briefcase (the football) will no longer work and the government employees who obeyed his orders will cease to do so.
It's as simple as that.
I give it 50-50 he attempts to refuse to step down claiming the election was stolen from him if he loses. That is just the type of shit stain Trump is.
And what if he refuses to step down? It changes nothing whatsoever.
Yep, it seems Jerry Jr, who like his father blames gays for just about every natural disaster, was butt fucking the pool boy while the pool boy was fucking Jerry Jr's wife. That is who is the self declared leader of Southern Protestants.
Lol so Trump is now openly admitting to tax fraud. And nothing will come of it because the Republicans are just as complicit.
Remember when the point of capitalism was to earn profit? And supposedly those profits could be invested into worthy ventures that ultimately benefit society?
Judging by Trumps business record the guy has been nothing but a shitshow since day one.
Not half as shocked as to see how incredibly gullible you people are. He can't suspend elections even if he wanted to. And his money troubles has been common knowledge for decades..
Yet people voted for him because his business saavy would get our economy going
People are morons.
His numerous bancruptcies and bad business deals were there for all to see. The only thing Donald Trump has succeeded at is self promotion.
The only thing which is automated is the PIN and I have no doubt there are ways around that for someone with the infrastructure of the US at their disposal. After all somewhere in that infrastructure are the experts who maintain and control that system. That being said even if he cannot circumvent that it hardly matters, the question is one of human beings and their behaviour. One doesn't enforce a regime with nukes.
Federal employees won't collectively simply refuse to follow orders, some might, some will not, some will be open to bullying and coercion. The majority will just carry on as always and follow whatever instructions their immediate superior gives them and the real questions of power will happen higher up the chain.
But make no mistake, the idea that he couldn't refuse is dangerously naive and relies on a set of rules which are dependent on the behaviours of lots of human beings. Countless leaders down the years have done exactly that around the world and there's no reason to see the US as a special case or in some way immune to the normal vagaries of human nature. History is made by those who don't care about the rules and can by virtue of charisma, intimidation, bribery or outright violence enforce their will on others around them.
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