US gov't shutdown

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  1. Tuttle

    Tuttle Khaaaaaaaaaaann !!!

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    So if Mexico pays for it, does that transform the wall into something "moral?"

    How about if wall was cheaper to build; is it then a more "moral" wall?
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    Damar Liberal Elitist

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    The original $1.6 billion for border funding is acceptable. At this point the only reasonable outcome is full capitulation by Trump.
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  4. matthunter

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    Is there NO situation in which Trump can be shown to have tweeted or said something about 10 years ago that undermines what he's on about today?

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  5. oldfella1962

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    yes Matt Hunter you really blew the whistle on Trump! Immigrants had no idea of how to climb a wall until Trump taught them the secret Ninja technique that (up until that day) had been a carefully guarded secret for centuries! :calli:
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  6. matthunter

    matthunter Good enough

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    The point, you colossal twonk, is that Trump is touting the wall as the ultimate defense when, back in the day, he pointed out the main issue with walls.

    Irony is not, as you may imagine, a quality or skill you need to look to in a wife regarding the treatment of your laundry.
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  7. Tererun

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    It is not a secret ninja technique considering ninjas are well known to be great at climbing walls, especially when wearing orange jumpsuits and screaming out catch phrases to enhance their stealth techniques.
  8. Tererun

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    His son says that walls are the reason we are safe from the animals in zoos but neglects the idiots who die every year because the wall does not keep humans from climbing in with the animals. Twitler junior will soon learn why federal prisons do not rely only on walls to keep their prisoners inside when he attends one of the facilities as a convict after Mueller gets him.
  9. Fruitloop

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    Shirogayne Sheithforge Formerly Important

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  11. Fruitloop

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    I'm glad the socialists got their way

    And I live in a world where these people own the means of production

    And those coal miners and other energy producers are sitting home or working without a paycheck too

    And hospitals and schools and everyone else below the rank of Representative are facing energy shortages because a bunch of fat cats in Washington are fighting over a bunch of pieces of metal

    Truly privately owned business was the worst of all possible worlds
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    Before we start sucking each other's dicks here remember - it's just a partial shutdown. :nono: Were the other shutdowns partial, full, or somewhere in between? In other words if the second longest had a larger percentage of the government not working (35 percent let's say versus our current 25 percent) how does that factor in? Are we indeed the longest pound-for-pound shutdown so far? :chris:
    Hey, there's an old Chinese saying - "may you live in interesting times" and it certainly applies here!
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  14. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Sheithforge Formerly Important

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    Man, I thought we were gonna lose some quality comedic content without Chup to be Dayton's foil, but but I'm liking the Tererun/Marso routine. :yes:
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  15. A Bangkok Atheist

    A Bangkok Atheist Don't believe his lies

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    You know you can easily google the answer?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_shutdown


    This time around, 800,000 federal employees were again furloughed. So it's the exact same number.
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    oldfella1962 light & lethal

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    but I'm liking the Tererun/Marso routine. :yes: - Shirogayne
    Me too! Easy to figure out who plays the role of "straight man" that's for sure. :yes:

    As for the shut down info thanks Chad! So this shutdown is the undisputed longest so far - wow.
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    I've an idea - why not use thoughts and prayers to fix border security?
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    Hence comparing Mexicans to animals in a zoo?

    But it isn't about racism?
  19. Tererun

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    In this case it is actually relatively less racism considering what the trump family has called Mexicans in the past.
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  20. Fruitloop

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  21. We Are Borg

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    All right, America.

    You are literally the only G7 and major western nation where government shutdowns are even possible.

    Your system of government sucks in this regard. Time to stop acting like children and fix it.

    Civil servants should not be collateral damage in a political fight.

    Do you fully understand how stupid y'all look?
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  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Well, excluding Greek democracy which, I believe, lasted a whole fucking year in the 6th Century B.C., America is the prototype.

    The prototype is where all the errors are made, and subsequent versions say "Hey, maybe if we spaced all the floor supports in the basement the same distance apart, the floors wouldn't creak so much." She said, having once owned a house that was the prototype for half a dozen other houses on the block. Creak, creak.

    Or, to put it another way, Daystrom's M1-M4 in The Ultimate Computer were "not entirely successful."

    And I believe (too lazy to Google it), it was Jefferson who said something to the effect that if a democracy didn't work after 200 years, throw it out and start over.

    Rather moot at the moment, since this Der Drumpfenfuhrer's Tantrum du jour is more of an oligarchy than a democracy.
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    America is the prototype for democracy?
  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    In modern times, IMO, yes. I.e., the one where all the mistakes are made, and those who follow say "Nuh-uh, we're gonna improve on the earlier model." :shrug:
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  25. spot261

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    That's just...not even nearly true....?
  26. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Well, okay, I'm not a historian a la @Dayton3, so edumacate me. :bailey:
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  27. A Bangkok Atheist

    A Bangkok Atheist Don't believe his lies

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    That's not true, our system of government sucks in many regards, not just this one.
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  28. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Garamet has a point. While there was a British parliament at the time of US independence, only around 3% of the population was actually eligible to vote.

    The US was a grand exercise in democracy, where they declared proudly and loudly that they would allow 6% that right.
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  29. A Bangkok Atheist

    A Bangkok Atheist Don't believe his lies

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  30. A Bangkok Atheist

    A Bangkok Atheist Don't believe his lies

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    Yeah we really didn't have a full democracy until the 1920s (at least on paper) or the 1960s (in practice). Even then, we still have a lot of kinks to work out in terms of full suffrage.
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