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New trailer is out, and this deserves its own thread (separate from the MCU one).
So, what's going on here? Is Vision not dead? And isn't Wanda supposed to have a Russian accent?
That's what's intriguing.
Oh my god. That looks so perfect.
That trailer raises so many questions, I'm probably going to have to watch out of sheer curiosity.
Just saw it elsewhere, thought it looked both amazing and intriguing.
That looks... kind of fucked up (as in weird/bizarre/WTF), but really good.
The guy playing Vision reminds me of Matt Frewer.
Is this the guy from the last Avengers movie? I don't really understand what's going on with these trailers.
When we last saw them, Vision was killed in Avengers: Infinity War when Thanos took the Mind Stone from him and Wanda helped the Avengers win in Endgame.
According to the trailers, Wanda is experiencing versions of realities where Vision still is alive and they are married. These realities are akin to old sitcoms. The trailer evokes Bewitched and the Brady Bunch, for example.
What exactly is happening to her, who or what is doing it, how or why this is happening to her are among the many questions we won't know the answers to until the series airs.
Well, Kevin Feige has said that when Thanos "destroyed" the infinity stones, they didn't cease to exist, but still exist as atoms whizzing around the universe.
Wanda gets her powers from the mind stone, so she's still carrying some stone charge in her.
Maybe her residual charge can pull in stone atoms, and re-solidify them.
If she had the mind gem, she could re-constitute Vision's soul, and if she had the reality stone, re-constituting the rest of his body would be Q snap easy.
Or, maybe it's as easy as the stones are still solid in alternate universes.
I still don't have any clue who Vision is, other than the android who randomly appeared in the last Avengers movie. But OK, thanks.
In the comics, Wanda and Vision were dating/married for a pretty long while. I don't know what their status is in the current comics continuity.
Vision has been in 3 Marvel movies up to now: Avengers: Age of Ultron, Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Infinity War. It sounds like you haven't seen the first two or forgot them. In case you don't want to be spoiled, I will put it behind spoiler tags:
Thank you. Could have sworn I saw Age of Ultron, but might have been getting it mixed up with the other Avengers movies. And I definitely didn't see any of the Captain Americas.
I would say you may want to give Cap 2 and 3 a try.
I like all three Cap movies, but I have been a fan of both the character and of Chris Evans. If the character/concept of Cap doesn't appeal to you, then I could see someone not wanting to bother with the original Cap.
Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier I would say is generally ranked among critics and fans as one of the top 5 Marvel movies, and I would also say one of a few comic book movies (along with Dark Knight, Logan and Black Panther, maybe a few others) where there is enough artistry in the making of it that it arguably is more than just another genre flick.
It looks to me like either Wanda is creating her own reality in some kind of pocket dimension, or else she's being held in an illusory prison that constantly reacts to her fantasies, perhaps having suffered a mental breakdown after Endgame. Either way, it looks like it's borrowing elements from the comics storyline where Wanda went nuts and declared "No more mutants" and/or the "Age of M" thing.
Is today the day?
Yep. First two eps are out. I thought they'd be an hour each, but they are -- appropriate for sitcoms, only about 22 mins a piece plus long, long credits.
First impressions: It's a little trippy and I want to rewatch when I'm more awake. I'm sure there are a bunch of things I didn't catch.
Enjoying it and intrigued by it after the first two episodes. They're small bites (less than 30 minutes), so it will be easy to binge.
I don't know exactly what's going on, but clearly Wanda is trapped in some constructed reality without any memory of her life before.
Wondering if she's projecting into a VR environment in order to try and restore Vision's AI matrix, but has somehow lost her memory in doing so. People realising/telling her "this is wrong" could be tech support on the outside trying to alert her to the truth.
I quite enjoyed it. There's clearly something going on and I like that they're taking their time to get there. Definitely worth a second watch to see if there are any clues.
It was OK, my wife liked it. Too much Lucy and Ricky and not enough Avengers in the first two eps, but we'll see if that changes through the course of the run. I am looking forward to how it plays out.
They are definitely riffing on a couple of comic runs. Possible spoilers.
As someone who grew up watching old reruns of I love Lucy, Bewitched and I Dream of Genie among others including Star Trek of course, the first episode really brought me back to those days. They nailed the look and feel of those sitcoms, especially Bewitched which was my favorite growing up. Elizabeth Olsen really nailed her part too. At times she sounded just like Elizabeth Montgomery. The jokes were spot on as well, very much in the spirit of the 50s/60s.
I think the special date is the snap. Did anyone notice the toaster in the commercial had a colored light? Then the red and yellow helicopter in the second episode, that's Iron-Man's colors. Could it be that Tony Stark is trying to get her out of this reality? Remember, Wanda didn't show in Endgame until Tony's snap and she still seemed pretty pissed so maybe this is set before Endgame? I also think Wanda is the one who put herself in this situation and I don't think she'll be successful in trying to bring Vision back. It was nice to see Debra Jo Rupp, I literally shouted Kitty out loud when I saw her. I think she definitely has something to do with whats going on.
Without gtting too speculative about what's pretty obviously trying to be a mind-fuck show, my first impression about the "who's doing this to you?" question over the credits is that Wanda, willingly or no, is creating all this so likely the Vision we're seeing isn't ACTUALLY Vision but just part of the ccreation
Interesting so far!
As a fan of older sitcoms, I appreciate all the attention to the little details. It actually made me nostalgic for classic TV shows.
This is definitely drawing inspiration from a couple different Scarlet Witch story lines and I can see how this show will set up the next phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, possibly even as a way to introduce mutants and the X-Men.
I kept wondering why the annoying housewife Dottie from episode 2 looked familiar... that was Emma Caulfield, who played Anya in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
I'm glad they are giving Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany some interesting character stuff to work with here. A bit of slapstick comedy and drama and romance. They didn't get much to do in the Avengers movies.
So far I'm enjoying this. 9 episodes sounds about right for something like this. Hopefully the other Marvel shows will be good also.
If each episode is covering a particular decade then episode 1 seems to be 'I Love Lucy' and 'The Honeymooners'. Episode 2 is definitely in the vein of 'Bewitched' and 'I Dream of Jeannie'.
I have read that episode 3 will reference 'The Brady Bunch' and maybe there will be some 'Mary Tyler Moore' in there.
If we go by that pattern episode 4 will reference the 80s, episode 5 will reference the 90s, episode 6 will reference the early 2000s... and maybe the last three episodes will just take place in the modern day or outside of the reality Wanda has constructed and will take place in the proper post-Endgame MCU?
I suspect all hell will break loose if/when Wanda snaps or she finds out who is manipulating her.
In relation to that:
I really enjoyed the first couple of episodes, nailed the recreation of those TV eras perfectly.
If they are continue tightly aping other genres of TV I'm hoping for either an Arrested Development narrator at some point, or Office/Parks and Rec style talking to the camera.
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