White Feelings Matter

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  1. Quincunx

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    http://www.vox.com/identities/2017/1/10/14226228/jeff-sessions-white-fragility

    This is something I've run into over and over, the idea that racism is a problem because of feelings. Being discriminated against feels bad, but being called a racist feels bad too, and since we all feel bad it pretty much evens out. Or, "why should I feel guilty… ?" as if guilty feelings are all that it will take to solve racism.

    To put it bluntly, feelings are irrelevant. :borg: Racism has an actual, measurable impact on society, and that's what needs to be addressed.
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  2. Dr. Krieg

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    Racist crybaby Jeff Sessions, I weep for your feelings. Queue "The Grand Wizard" Dinner, to cry about his feelings. :lol:
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  3. Dayton Kitchens

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    Depends whether you believe that racism is a widespread problem in modern American society.

    I don't believe it is.

    I see accusations of racism far more often used as a politically correct club to batter people who disagree with your position into compliance.
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  4. Quincunx

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    I'm talking about the measurable discrepancies which separate minority racial groups from the dominant majority. You may not believe those are due to racism, but that is because you refuse to consider racism can be anything other than individuals with racist feelings.
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  5. Señor Hoint

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    This is not a matter of belief. Racism is a widespread problem in modern American society, factually.
    That you are not exposed to it because you are a member of the racially privileged group is not really relevant.
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    If you don't wanna be called racist, don't do or say racist shit.

    Racism ain't genetic, ffs.
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    Same could be said of the regressive left. :diacanu:
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    Racism in the United States in the modern era (post 1970s to present) is indeed widespread.

    But its a mile wide............and an inch deep. Plenty of people have racist feelings from time to time.

    But they rarely make a real difference in how they actually act and function in our society.
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    On the contrary, white supremacy is probably the single most important sociological concept for understanding the United States. It's one measure of your white privilege that you can ignore it; for millions of people of color it is rubbed in a thousand different ways by the normal course of daily life.
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    Or that is what they think.

    Doesn't make it real.
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    Oxymoron is moronic.
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    When I hear someone is a southern conservative, I don't automatically assume they're a racist. When I hear them saying or see them doing things that are overtly racist, then I think they're a racist. Southern liberals are entirely capable of being racist.
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    This is why people think you're retarded.
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    Please, try not to use that word. It's really offensive, and you can just say moronic or stupid and get the same effect.
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    Right, my guess is that it's more likely you're wrong about racism than that people of color in the United States are experiencing some sort of mass psychosis, but then what do I know?
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    Get real, Dayton. It's the elephant in the national living room.
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    aren't you the one who's boasted in the past of browbeating people into conceding?
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    you're really aiming to replace gtardo, aren't ya?
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    Inspector Thomas Brackenreid: I find it hard to believe that such a precise model was built by an imbecile!

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    Manifest Destiny writ large. White people came here because God brought them here, because it was their promised land, and just because there were some brown skins inhabiting the place didn't mean it was going to stay that way. Humans have colonized and re-colonized nearly every part of the planet, but it was us, the European outcasts (of our own doing) who decided that God wanted us to oppress and subdue the former owners, and expand our territory in the name of liberty *cough*forwhitepeople*cough*.
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  24. Tuttle

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    People always gonna be assholes, racism's just a handy term used by liberals to embiggen the left's self-perception.

    As for institutional racism, institutions are generally a mirror on society, so there's some assholes in institutions making decisions that adversely impact blacks, but there's also the SCOTUS-approved positive discrimination, which makes it e.g. okay to add points to college applications for being black.

    IN the US the most racist (or "race aware") are blacks and liberals overendowed w/white guilt - together these two groups do the most harm to the disadvantaged class (blacks, in this case). Liberals enslave the blacks to a life where mediocrity somehow becomes acceptable ('soft bigotry of low expectations'), and blacks in the the obviously destructive-in-the-long-term-manner of forming e.g. black only clubs in college and BLM where "black" is the lens through which any conversation necessarily will be viewed. It's no way to move forward, & no healing will ever come of it.
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  25. Señor Hoint

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    Horseshit.

    In the absence of these programs it has been empirically demonstrated that college admissions will skew overwhelmingly white. This is not discrimination, this is a measure that addresses discrimination.
    Kind of like if you were running a race and one person was wearing a ball-and-chain. What you're doing is claiming that taking off that ball-and-chain is discrimination against the people who are unencumbered.

    Meanwhile this is a series of outright falsehoods combined with racist drivel ironically being used to argue that racism is not a problem. Here's a hint: referring to "the blacks" as though they are some monolithic group is racist. Also, perhaps you didn't know but there is a group called the 'alt-right' in the US that is explicitly racist (though their preferred term is 'race-realist') and I'm pretty sure they (along with neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates, and all other manner of racist filth - not to imply these groups don't overlap with the alt-right) are the most racist people in the US.
    I mean really, calling "blacks and liberals" the most racist people in America when there are sites like AmRen and Stormfront is a pretty good indication that you, yourself are either
    a) woefully ignorant, or
    b) a racist piece of trash
    edit: I forgot option c) all of the above.
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  26. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    ^Didn't even read a word of that, but got you correctly pegged as a leftie racist. : )
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    Head up your ass and proud of it, eh?
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    I miss hearing his feelings on things too!

    He was a great announcer & MLB NL President.

    His feelings matter too, to say the least!

    ;)
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    That's the spirit!!

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    And who is the judge of how we determine what is racist and what isn't? :chris: You're a liberal so you have the moral high ground by default? :dayton: The only person who can decide what is "racist" is the person being offended. You as a white man might say or do something that you don't think is racist but a minority might beg to differ. Newsflash - your shit stinks more than you think it does.
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