Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Shirogayne, Nov 12, 2016.
Official WF poll...vote early, vote often!
But if you don't vote, you don't have a right to bitch.
I threw "minority sellouts", on the pile, even though the only one I could think of was Omarosa.
Imo Donald was mostly a big FU to the Washington DC status quo.
A reaction to PC. A reaction to pussification of the country. A reaction to concern about unfettered immigration. A reaction to the change from generations of melting pot (*you* fit in) to the generation of we-should-change-to-be-like-other-cultures-because-"tolerance"-is-more-important-than-being-better (a load of appealing sounding bullshit, imo). A reaction to lackluster growth. A reaction to reality of 'member-berries (dim prospects, rosy view of past). Reaction to Obamacare (don't discount it, it was a big FU to the majority of the population at the time, and most of the promises never panned out).
And Hillary is a pretty flawed person/candidate.
Wolf [I can't stop saying his name 17x per sentence] Blitzer and the rest of the infotainment media.
If there'd been a plane crash last week, Trump would have lost.
It's a convergence of factors.
In a time where the electorate was passionate for change--witness Sanders and Trump--the Democrats could not have picked a more thoroughly establishment candidate than Hillary Clinton.
Middle American whites have felt at best marginalized and at worst demonized by the liberal elites who dominate the media. Their embrace of Trump is less about ideology and more an expression of anger and frustration.
Hillary's manuverings against Bernie, the revelations about her charity, and the seeming improprities in the DoJ's investigation of her mishandling of classified info all made the "Hillary is corrupt/untrustworthy" claim all the more plausible.
Yep, and he's already filling his transition team with insiders.
^Hillary was like the "Ghostbusters" candidate.
After her catastrophic loss, Hillary was reportedly crying uncontrollably and blaming Comey.
Yeah, that's it. It's not her fault for committing so many felonies that 200 FBI agents were assigned to investigate her nefarious dealings, it's Comey's fault for wrecking her coronation ball.
I picked both Clinton being full of fail and DNC rigging the system. I agree with Paladin in that people are just pissed off and tired of the same old bullshit. I think Bernie would have won.
Basically the human race has overpopulated the planet and is now going collectively crazy.
Currently Americans are the only ones going crazy that I see.
Personally, I blame Baby Boomers for not understanding how technology works. This includes Clinton, her staff, and anti-Clinton Baby Boomers. The e-mail thing cost her the election. We may have elected a white nationalist into the Oval Office, but at least we took a stand against private email servers.
Agree! Bernie was the lefty version of Trump - the outsider bringing something new to the table.
Pretty much sums it up!
According to a poll, Bernie would have crushed Trump.
But fuck Bernie. It wasn't his turn. Hillary earned the right to the nomination through her years of claiming that she advocated for women and the middle class, plus putting up with all of Bill's whoring and raping.
Speaking of, who wants to take bets on how soon they end up divorced now?
They can't get divorced because then they'd have to split up the Clinton Global Initiative, and that would mean letting lawyers and judges have a look at its finances. It's far more likely that Bill will just shove her down a flight of stairs.
Not if he suicides by sniper fire first
Well you cannot kill Hillary with sniper fire - she dodges that shit! Okay for you people who don't get it, Hillary said she dodged sniper fire at the Sarajevo airport back in the day. I've been there BTW and love the city. Anywho, turns out she embellished the story, much like many people who don't have crystal clear memories of their combat experiences unlike myself.
oldfella will they do a svu episode on trump?
Embellished? Did I ever tell you about the time I landed at Atlanta after the runway had just been hit by cratering bombs from a Cuban airstrike? Then I had to fight my way through Spetnaz and Cuban assault troops to get to the baggage carousel.
Here's a photo of Hillary tackling one of the snipers on the Sarajevo tarmac:
The Spetnaz soldiers I took out near gate C were a little taller than that one. Boy were their parents pissed.
You left one out, we all know who's really to blame.
Then you need your eyes checked.
Never mind the Muzzies, Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Venezuelans, Cubans, and most of all Canadians.
The right to bitch is not contingent on voting.
There was a chart floating around here that showed the lower overall voter turnout and how it was mostly previously democrat voters who didn't vote... likely because HRC was almost as unappealing as Trump to them.
It's almost kind of ironic that there was a slight majority of folks in the primarieswho would've preferred a Bernie run, yet the flaws of the Dems selection process made it possible to ignore that slight majority and anointed her before it even started. She may have won the popular vote by a fraction of a percentage point, but the flaws incumbent in the EC have given you Trump despite that "majority"...
My gut feeling is that they actually do legitimately care for each other.
Those aren't flaws, those are features.
We have a federal system, not a national one. Each state has its own government and so we gave states some points for being part of the system, so large states wouldn't completely dominate small states.
But it also means the election is a state-by-state sampling, which is great because voter laws in each state, or local conditions and proclivities, might somewhat vary. One state might have a ton of local races, a governor's race, and some massively important voter referendums on the ballot, while another state might not have squat. This could mean that people in Indiana flock to the polls while people in Ohio stay home. Yet we can judge each states contest separately as a sample of that state's voters' preferences.
Or more simply, we know state's like California and New York let a ton of illegal aliens vote. As it stands those votes don't matter to other states because all those states' electoral college votes were already going to Hillary. If we had a popular vote system, Kentucky would be sending election monitors to LA and we would be arresting and deporting anyone found voting illegally.
Even more simply, what would happen to Hillary's popular vote if three feet of snow blanketed the Northeast last Tuesday? Do you really want the leader of the free world decided by the weather?
The joke went right over your head
There was no joke.
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