Will YOU take the Coronavirus vaccines when they're available to you?

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by The Esquire of Gothos, Jan 15, 2021.

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Will YOU take the Coronavirus vaccines when they're available to you?

  1. YES I will take the Coronavirus vaccines when they're available to me.

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  2. NO I will not take the Coronavirus vaccines when they're available to me.

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  3. I plan to wait & see how things go with vaccinations, then decide whether to get the vaccine or not.

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  4. Minsc&Boo

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  1. The Esquire of Gothos

    The Esquire of Gothos The Squire of Gotham

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    I will, but some people won't & they're reasoning isn't automatically stupid, given concerns some may have about side effects & the possibility you're in the 5% or so for whom the vaccines will not work.
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  2. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    I'm so far down the list I haven't even thought about it.
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  3. The Esquire of Gothos

    The Esquire of Gothos The Squire of Gotham

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    @Jenee

    I hope you get bumped up higher on the list.
  4. Mrs. Albert

    Mrs. Albert demented estrogen monster

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    I got the first dose on the first day I could and am scheduled to get the second dose later this month. I’m in hospitals with covid patients every day. It ain’t pretty.
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  5. AlphaMan

    AlphaMan The North Remembers...

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    I took my first dose 2 weeks ago and will take the second next week.

    to be honest, I could've taken it earlier but I did wait until there were about 5 million or so distributed. No serious side effects or reactions other than about 70 allergic reactions. That means about a 0.000002% chance of a serious unknown catastrophic side effect. That weighed against the chance of me contracting the virus and possibly killing someone I love by exposing them, well, it seemed like a reasonable gamble, IMHO.
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  6. Jenee

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    thank you. But, I don't work in healthcare. I'm not a teacher. I don't work in retail. I spend most of my time in my own apartment and am usually so lazy I've taken advantage of the new services that deliver food and groceries.

    When the vaccine is readily available to everyone, I'm absolutely certain my healthcare provider will insist upon it.

    Here's how the last vaccine went:

    Nurse: It says here, you're due for a tetanus shot.
    Me: Oh, can it wait until next time? I have a lot of errands to run today
    Nurse: it says here, you've put it off 5 times.
    HCP: (from another office) No more putting it off! Give her the shot today.
    Me: :-(
    Nurse: (leaves the room to get the shot, then returns) Oh, you're in luck. This is the last one.
    Me: No, if I was in luck, there wouldn't have been any left.
    HCP: (hysterical laughter from another office)
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  7. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Soon as it's available to me. Science, bitches. It works.
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  8. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    Same here. I'm in the age bracket for whom it should be available almost immediately, but there just aren't enough vaccines available and I'm not in a geographical location where it seems particularly urgent. So I'll probably have to wait a couple more months.
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  9. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    I'll definitely get it, but at the rate they're going I'll be surprised if it happens before summer. :garamet:
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  10. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    I hope you explain that 95% are excellent odds.

    Wife is a nurse here in GA. She's had her two shots. 2nd shot caused chills and aches for several days. Many healthcare workers in GA are turning down the vaccines.

    The curse of misinformation is strong in GA.
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  11. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey official beverage of antifa

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    I'm "phase 2" which means they expect to have enough by spring for me...


    no worries about citicisms the vaccine is being "rushed"
    it took roughly three months to get the p51 off of the ground building from what they had/knew by pooling brains without significant concern to cost. Why that wouldn't apply here? The pretest/prototyping has been massive in contrast to most drug trials, so I don't understand how substantially testing 100K times in 60 days vs 100K over 150 days makes a difference?
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    Spaceturkey official beverage of antifa

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    5% risk of vaccine reaction vs up to 3% mortality rate with covid... doesn't seem like a difficult equation and I suck at math
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  13. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Yup. By the time we're eligible, any problems will be found out, and side effects known.
    So far side effects seem to be a day of flu-like symptoms. I got a little of that with the flu vaccine too.
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  14. Useful Idiot

    Useful Idiot Fresh Meat

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    I'm in line to get my first shot now, at work. Waiting for those sweet government nanoprobes to enter my bloodstream.
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  15. steve2^4

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    But it's not 5% risk of vaccine reaction, is it? Everyone will have side effects even if it's just a sore arm. Severe side effects, like turning into OF, seem to be 1 in 4 billion.

    it's 5% chance you'll get Covid anyway (but maybe a less severe case).
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  16. Jenee

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    The study I saw, the 5% had more that a sore arm. and the company refused to publish anything about those 5% Which ..., is not how clinical studies should be released.

    Not doubting the vaccine. just wondering what was the common denominator of those 5%
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    Chills, fever, aches, necrophagy. It's worth it.
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  18. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey official beverage of antifa

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    yeah, sorry... i should've been more clear that the risk of a bit of discomfort vs the slightly lesser risk of dying miserably to me isn't a risk at all.
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  19. Useful Idiot

    Useful Idiot Fresh Meat

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    I heard zombieization only occurs in 1 out of 3 people. But don't tell me the odds!
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  20. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    0.6% vs 0.5% in the placebo group. It seems rather well documented:

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  21. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    fever, aches, chills, etc are never counted in the failed percentages. The info about the 5% is important. Especially if one is prone to adverse reactions when given vaccines.
  22. steve2^4

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    yeahbut that's a positive in 47% of the cases.
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    As I said, when last I'd checked, they weren't releasing that info. If they have now, great.
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    0.6 (and that's against 0.5 in the placebo or 0.1% increased risk). The decimal is important.

    If you have a link that advises 5.0% please share it (I showed you mine).
  25. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    As I said, I don't have a link and I am not denying the effectiveness. I was only saying that last I'd read, Pfizer wasn't releasing the details of 95/5% effectiveness study.
  26. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey official beverage of antifa

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    the 5% is from Esquire of Gothos' post.

    I simply wasn't in the mood to argue it's hyperbole so much as establish it as the outer limit of that hyperbole.
  27. steve2^4

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    no, he stated, "5% or so for whom the vaccines will not work," which is not the same as 5% will experience severe side effects.

    The vaccine is 95% effective (which is where he got: 5% or so for whom the vaccines will not work).

    This is stunningly successful compared to flu vaccines. They were shooting for 50% and scored a home run. (someone please edit my sports metaphor, I suck at those).
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  28. Jenee

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    If you are still responding to me, I think you are misreading my comments. I am not arguing with you. I am not denying the efficacy of the vaccine. I'm simply stating that the report I'd read - months ago - Pfizer was not releasing any information as to why 5% of those tested did not pass. The question is what did those 5% have in common that prevented the vaccine from working.
  29. steve2^4

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    "5% did not pass" does not compute. It's 95% effective rate. The other 5% still got covid-19 to some degree. They did not turn into @oldfella1962.
  30. Asyncritus

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    I think what you meant to say was they were hoping to stretch a double out into a triple and ended up scoring a hat-trick touchdown from center court.

    Or something like that... :unsure:
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