Wish me luck! Switching from iPhone to Android.

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  1. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    See. I literally don't use my web browser except for WF. Whatever app I'm using has it's own information pathway. For that purpose, having a larger screen only means that I use more battery, which is in short supply already.

    As for 4G, it's simply not an option for me. Back during the Spring, I fought a months long battle with AT&T due to service problems over them installing a 3G tower in my area. I just barely have 3G. 4G is a non-factor as far as I'm concerned.

    Again, I'm not debating personal preference. I'm genuinely and honestly glad you're happy. I just don't see Android offering me anything I don't already have.
  2. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Well, that's just fine. :shrug:

    I wasn't trying to make a sales pitch.

    I'm glad that you're happy with what you have too.
  3. Volpone

    Volpone Zombie Hunter

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    Remove the battery. Swap in SD memory cards. Transfer the SIM card to another phone.
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  4. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Derp. Can't believe I skipped the obvious.
  5. Stallion

    Stallion Team Euro!

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    Sean, I got the SGS2 just over a week ago. I fucking love it! Im still working out all the things I can do with it, but I am definatley not dissapointed.

    I also seem to get great battery life out of it. Saying that, the Mrs got one the same day and she rapes her battery dead every day, I've not worked out yet if she's got a dodgy battery or she just spends too much much time on Facebook.
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  6. Stallion

    Stallion Team Euro!

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    My SGS2 seems to get a better battery life than friends I-phone 4. I've heard 4S battery is pretty poor.
  7. Stallion

    Stallion Team Euro!

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    I've never had an iphone so Im not the person to tell you any pro's and cons. Go and find a Galaxy S2 in a shop, have a play around with it. I had heard before I got mine that androids user interface was not as intuitive as IOS. All I can say is if anyone struggles with the GS2 interface then they really shouldn't be in charge of a smartphone.
  8. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    To be honest, I have a Droid X and will be switching to the HTC Rezound or Samsung Galaxy Nexus on Friday. All are of a similar size. I can operate all one handed with out a hitch. Of course YMMMV. But to be honest, even Elwood can operate on of these phones with one hand.

    It's mainly for pop email accounts. Android has its stock client, but like the music apps, there are other apps that can do the job better or more to your liking via menu layouts, interface, etc..

    Like Sean said, one of the biggest plusses to an Android phone is that you use it your way. There is also the battery and SD card. For folks like him and myself, those are big issues / deal breakers. Another one is the web browser. I use mine like a fiend and not only desire the larger screen, but better rendering. In the end though you have to go with what works for you.

    Oh and about 4G, you might just be surprised where you can and can't get 4G on Verizon. They just marked the 1 year anniversary of the network and they just keep adding towers like crazy. For instance, I believe they have rolled out 4G in just about every small to bigger metropolitan area. Now they will be rolling out to the hinterlands over the next two years.
  9. Stallion

    Stallion Team Euro!

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    I looked at the nexus and to be honest I thought the GS2 was a better all round unit. :unsure:
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    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    In ways it is. The plus to the GN is that it is stock android and will get all of it's updates directly from Google. I dont know how it works on your side of the pond but in the US Google releases an update, then the manufacturers muck with it to make sure their addons work, then the manufacturer ships it off to the carrier, who then tests. Finally the update is released to the consumer. So even though ICS will be available in the US come Friday, it may be another 6 months at best until owners of a GS2 or other type of phone ever sees it.
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    The Galaxy S ranges are better than Nexus. On balance the S2 and the latest Nexus are similar but the S3 will blow the Nexus out of the water when released sometime next year. Of the two, I would recommend the S2. It's cheaper, has a better camera, and apparently the Nexus does not take SD cards OR support flash - Apple style!*

    *May not be true, couldn't verify the lack of SD or Flash support other than one review website
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    Stallion Team Euro!

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    Frontline, fair enough, but surely if Gingerbread2.3.3 or whatever it is on mine (seems to) do a great job, then are you not better having that with a better piece of kit rather than an inferior model running a newer operating system?

    To be honest I don't know the answer, until the other week I had never had a smartphone. I could have got a crap smartphone and still be wowed by what it does.
  13. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I've stopped buying paid apps (unless it is really cheap or something I know I will use LOTS) for my iPhone 4 since it seems pretty likely I'll be switching to an Android when upgrade time comes around.
  14. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    I use a battery case, personally, with my iPhone. I like it better than having to carry around an extra battery - it makes the additional things that I have to carry... just extra bulk, not extra items. Less to track.
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    I don't need a removable battery as much for running a battery down as other things. If you ever needed to do a hard reboot, you could pop the battery. If your phone ever got really wet. Hasn't happened to my smartphones, but my last dumb phone was in my pocket when I got hit by a wave in Hawaii. I shut it off right away and let it dry out. For a couple weeks it worked fine before it started acting up. Since I was still under contract and had nothing to lose, I popped the back open, took out the battery and threw the phone sink, under running water. Once all the salt was out I let it dry for a day or two, popped the battery back in and used that phone for another year or two.
  16. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    You don't have to take the battery out to do a hard reboot on an iPhone. You just hold two buttons down. :shrug:
  17. Volpone

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    And if that doesn't work?
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  18. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Then you wait.

    You wait until the battery drains out dead.

    Then you plug it in, and recharge it and hope for the best.
  19. frontline

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    About the SD card, that is true. Native Android does not support USB mass storage either. You have to root to get that functionality on a Nexus phone or buy an HTC or Motorola or Samsung phone. There is a very good reason why these manufacturers skin their phones. (Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWhiz). The GN is definitely aimed at folks who want to tear their phones apart...its for beeks and developers. As for Flash..it's up to Adobe and their desire to support ICS. I don't know if they are going to want to do that.

    Honestly I have been mulling that thought since this morning and have almost talked my self out of the GN for the HTC Rezound. Verizon passed on the SG2 :garamet:

    For me the core issues are the strength of the radio for VOX (yeah crazy aint it) and for all the time I spend hunting and camping, battery life.

    or make an appointment with a genius.
  20. The Night Funky

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    Grab some wood there, bub. It looks like Verizon's going to be fubaring the GN.
    At least they haven't locked it to using Bing as the search engine. Yet.
  21. Sean the Puritan

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  22. Tex

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    The removable battery is a great example of the 80/20 rule… actually in this case it's probably more like the 95/5 rule. 95% of the time having a removable battery will prove to be a pain in the ass. Example, you drop your phone, battery pops off and slides somewhere out of sight. Sure most of the time you drop the phone it stays relatively close by but if you're running and it comes out of your pocket, or your in a crowd, or it's dark finding that battery is a bitch.

    How many times do you get your phone wet? In 2 years with my 3GS it only happened once and I was drunk and it was my fault. The phone fell out of my pocket when I was running near a pool, bounced off the concrete and slid into the pool. AT&T had already told me I was going to have to pay full retail price to get another one. I was ready to pay the cancellation fee and get an Android from Verizon as it would have been far cheaper than paying the $700 retail price for a 32GB 3GS at the time. I decided to try a trip to the Apple store before I gave up. Apple gave me a new one and didn't charge me for it. I didn't have Apple care, they didn't have to do that. It was just great customer service. That's one of the best things about Apple IMO. I've had to have them repair my Macbook Pro before. When you call you get someone in California, not India, they answer the phone almost right away and they will work through solutions until you fix the problem. If not they'll pay to have it shipped, repair it, and ship it back to you all overnight. Turn around was either 3 or 4 days.

    But I'm getting off topic. The iPhone battery being locked in the case does more good than harm IMO. If the battery were to go bad Apple would replace it for free. If your phone is a few years old and not covered by the warranty then you can either pay Apple to fix it or spend about 1/2 as much and take it to one of the many ifixit type shops who will do the exact same thing. My 3GS battery made it the whole two years in what I would call "can live with it" condition. It had declined noticeably by the end but it still was getting the job done. Admittedly that job is made much easier by my line of work, sitting in front of a laptop all day allows easy access to keep it charged.

    I hadn't considered the hard reboot before. I haven't had a situation come up where I couldn't get the phone to shut down but holding down the power button long enough then swiping. I can see how that could happen though. I'll concede that point.

    When it comes down to it I think probably 95% of the time the battery comes off a phone (not counting something like a blackberry where you have to do it to trade micro sd cards out) it is because someone dropped it, not because they wanted it off.
  23. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Neither I nor anyone I have ever met in my life has ever had their cellphone battery pop off by dropping the phone. :marathon:

    Based on that, I find your "95%" figure to be dubious.

    I'm guessing it's really more like 0.095%
  24. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh really? So everyone you know always lets you know when they've dropped their phone? They give you the details on each slip? :jayzus:

    Just google a phrase like "dropped phone battery came off" or "dropped phone battery fell out" and you'll get plenty of stories. It was definitely more of an issue 5 years ago than it is today with smart phones but I remember it happening to my blackberry at least twice.
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    It was a common occurrence for my treos and black blackberries. Any my Samsung with palm OS. ANd my Samsung dumb clam phone.
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    :lol:

    This argument is making me chuckle. Sometimes when you drop your phone the cover and battery comes off. Sometimes it doesn't! You can't quantify this sort of thing.
    But I prefer the ability to simply remove the back cover and take the battery out. Why Apple would deny their users this simple feature I don't know, but it's typical of Apple and their closed system policy.
    Naughty customers tampering with their products after purchasing them... tut tut.
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  27. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    No, the whole "dropped phone and battery came out" argument is absurd.

    I bet it's probably happened about 1/3 as often as someone's dropped an iPhone in water.

    :)
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    You know they designed the iPhone where it would fit snugly into any standard glass of water? They thought of EVERYTHING!

    They were going to make a parachute pack, but couldn't make the sheets of transparent aluminum thin enough.
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  29. Stallion

    Stallion Team Euro!

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    No battery issues wigh the wifes sgs2, she took it to work all day, only sent a few texts, as an experiment to keep up wigh mine, stayed off spacebook all day and still had 7+% oc her battery left when she got hkme.

    Postred with my new phone after 5 pints! Not tapatalk
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  30. The Exception

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    It used to be a problem with older phones, but I haven't had it happen with any Android phone I've used.